Gravitational Collapse of a Cylinder

In summary, there is no known solution for a collapsing cylinder in the context of general relativity. The Schwarzschild solution provides the Schwarzschild radius for a spherical mass, but no similar treatment exists for a cylinder. The "no hair theorem" suggests that any collapsing cylinder would eventually form a sphere, except for the hypothetical case of an infinitely long cylinder. It is also unclear if a finite cylinder could produce a naked singularity, as the "no hair theorem" does not rule out this possibility. The exact radius at which a spherical mass would collapse depends on the specific solution, and the cylindrical equivalent to the Schwarzschild solution is the Weyl vacuum. However, there is currently no known solution for a collapsing cylinder in the
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edgepflow
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The Schwarzschild solution to the field equations is a vacuum solution for a spherically symmetric mass and provides the Schwarzschild radius:

rs = 2Gm / c^2.

Is there a similar treatment for a cylinder that would give its radius and height as a function of mass?
 
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edgepflow said:
Is there a similar treatment for a cylinder that would give its radius and height as a function of mass?
I think that any cylinder that collapsed would end up as a sphere (if it was not rotating). This is basically a consequence of the "no hair theorem". The only exception *might" be a cylinder with infinite length, but for non zero density it would have infinite mass, complicating things a tad. For example, one complication is that any point on the cylinder would only be "gravitationally aware" of the other particles within its visible horizon.
 
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yuiop said:
I think that any cylinder that collapsed would end up as a sphere (if it was not rotating). This is basically a consequence of the "no hair theorem". The only exception *might" be a cylinder with infinite length, but for non zero density it would have infinite mass, complicating things a tad. For example, one complication is that any point on the cylinder would only be "gravitationally aware" of the other particles within its visible horizon.
That makes sense.

But before the collapse, is there a way to figure out the maximum height to diameter (H/D) ratio to form an event horizon? Imagine a square cylinder (H=D) that is on the edge of forming an event horizon. Now add the same material to increase H for a fixed D. What ratio H/D does the event horizon finally form?
 
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yuiop said:
I think that any cylinder that collapsed would end up as a sphere (if it was not rotating). This is basically a consequence of the "no hair theorem". The only exception *might" be a cylinder with infinite length, but for non zero density it would have infinite mass, complicating things a tad. For example, one complication is that any point on the cylinder would only be "gravitationally aware" of the other particles within its visible horizon.

I think this is an unsolved question. The black hole theorem applied iff the result is a conventional black hole. If it is some other type of singularity, the no hair theorem does not apply.
 
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yuiop said:
I think that any cylinder that collapsed would end up as a sphere (if it was not rotating). This is basically a consequence of the "no hair theorem". The only exception *might" be a cylinder with infinite length, but for non zero density it would have infinite mass, complicating things a tad. For example, one complication is that any point on the cylinder would only be "gravitationally aware" of the other particles within its visible horizon.
But if an infinite cylinder could collapse to a line singularity, I wonder what happens if you just have a finite cylinder which is long enough that the event of the ends beginning to collapse lie outside the past light cone of the event of the center reaching infinite density? (of course the past light cone of this point would still look different than the past light cone of the singularity in the infinite-cylinder case, so that might be enough to explain why it behaves differently) The "no hair" theorem doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility of http://free.naplesplus.us/articles/view.php/42794/are-the-rules-of-physics-broken-with-naked-singularities, I wonder if it can be ruled out that a sufficiently long cylinder might produce one...
 
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No matter what the shape of the mass, the requirements for an event horizon (no spin, and no charge) is R>=M. All of mass M must be within a sphere of radius R.
 
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The cylindrical equivalent of the spherically symmetric vacuum is the Weyl vacuum. If you do a web search for 'Weyl vacuum' there are lots of hits.

I know some cylindrically symmetric solutions but not for a collapsing cylinder.
 

1. What is gravitational collapse of a cylinder?

Gravitational collapse of a cylinder refers to the collapse of a long, thin cylindrical object under the force of its own gravity. This can happen when the object's mass is large enough to overcome the structural forces holding it together.

2. What causes gravitational collapse of a cylinder?

Gravitational collapse of a cylinder is primarily caused by the object's own mass. As the mass of the cylinder increases, so does its gravitational force, which can eventually become strong enough to overcome the structural forces within the object.

3. What are the implications of gravitational collapse of a cylinder?

The implications of gravitational collapse of a cylinder can vary depending on the size and composition of the object. In some cases, it can lead to the formation of a black hole, while in others it may result in the formation of a neutron star.

4. How is gravitational collapse of a cylinder studied?

Scientists study gravitational collapse of a cylinder through theoretical models, computer simulations, and observations of real-world phenomena such as collapsing stars and galactic structures. They also use data from gravitational wave detectors to gather information about the effects of gravitational collapse.

5. Can gravitational collapse of a cylinder be prevented?

No, gravitational collapse of a cylinder cannot be prevented as it is a natural consequence of the laws of gravity and the structure of matter. However, understanding and predicting these phenomena can help us better understand the universe and potentially protect against potential hazards in the future.

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