Do continuous functions preserve open intervals?

In summary, the conversation discusses the existence of an easier function that provides counterexamples for the statement "if D is closed, then f(D) is closed", using various examples such as D = (0, 1) and f(x) = 5. The conversation also explores the use of different intervals, such as D = N and f(x) = 1/x, and the concept of open and closed sets. Finally, a counterexample is found using the function f(x) = (x*sin(x))+x+(1/x) with the interval D = [1, infinity), showing that if D is an interval that is not open, then f(D) is an interval that is not open.
  • #1
buddyholly9999
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Let [tex]f: D \rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/tex] be continuous.

Is there an easier function that counterexamples;
if D is closed, then f(D) is closed
than D={2n pi + 1/n: n in N}, f(x)=sin(x) ?


Plus, these counterexamples are all the same with the domain changed, just correct me if I'm wrong.

If D is not closed, then f(D) is not closed.
CE: D = (0, 1) and f(x) = 5
If D is not compact, then f(D) is not compact.
CE: We use same CE as above
If D is infinite, then f(D) is infinite.
CE: D = all real numbers and f(x) = 5
If D is an interval, then f(D) is an interval
CE: Use same CE as first
 
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  • #2
"If D is not closed, then f(D) is not closed.
CE: D = (0, 1) and f(x) = 5"

Why is D = (0,1) not closed? I think you mean more like
CE: D = N, and f(x) = 5
 
  • #3
?

[tex]D \subseteq \mathbb{R}[/tex]

an open set is one that doesn't contain it's bounds. The closure of (0, 1) is [0, 1]...umm...i'm not sure what to say...(0, 1) is an open set.
 
  • #4
Fair enough, I guess I misunderstood the notation. I thought you were saying that the domain of the function was all the numbers between 0 and 1.
 
  • #5
that's exactly what i meant...am i misunderstanding something?
 
  • #6
(0, 1) is indeed (extremely) standard notation for the set {x; 0 < x < 1}, which is not closed.

Is there an easier function that counterexamples;
if D is closed, then f(D) is closed
than D={2n pi + 1/n: n in N}, f(x)=sin(x) ?

What about D = the natural numbers and f(x) = 1/x?

If D is an interval, then f(D) is an interval
CE: Use same CE as first

But f(D) = {5} = [5, 5]. The intermediate value theorem garantuees that you can't find a counterexample.
 
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  • #7
the continuous image of a compacts et is always compact, so you must use a closed set that is not bounded. say x-->1/[1+x^2] applied to the (closed) real line.

or the exponential function applied to the real line. or arctan applied to the real line.

etc...
 
  • #8
Muzza said:
But f(D) = {5} = [5, 5]. The intermediate value theorem garantuees that you can't find a counterexample.

Oh yeah...haha..I typed that one up wrong. It was supposed to be "if D is an interval that is not open, then f(D) is an interval that is not open"

my bad...
 
  • #9
buddyholly9999 said:
Oh yeah...haha..I typed that one up wrong. It was supposed to be "if D is an interval that is not open, then f(D) is an interval that is not open"

my bad...
how about D = (0, 1] and f(x) = (sin(1/x))/x
 
  • #10
nocturnal said:
how about D = (0, 1] and f(x) = (sin(1/x))/x

That function would have f(D)=(-infinity,infinity) or, in other words, the reals. This interval is both open and closed so it is not a counterexample.
 
  • #11
I got it!

This is for: if D is an interval that is not open, then f(D) is an interval that is not open.

Take f:D->Reals

f(x)=(x*sin(x))+x+(1/x)

D=[1,infinity) which is not open

f(D)=(0,infinity) which is open

Woot! Woot!

Patrick
South Dakota State University - Real Analysis I
 
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