Extra dimensions vs. dark matter in the LHC

In summary, physicists hope to use conservation of energy in the LHC to determine if there are multiple dimensions and if there is dark matter. If they detect a particle that apparently only reacts through gravity, and there is some amount of energy lost, they would use statistical analysis to determine the mass of the particle.
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It is my understanding that physicists hope to use conservation of energy in the LHC to determine if there are multiple dimensions AND if there is dark matter. Let's suppose that through conservation of momentum, we detect a particle that apparently only reacts through gravity, and there is some amount of energy lost. Would we just E=mc² to determine how massive the particle is? What if more energy is lost via extra dimensions?
 
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kashiark said:
It is my understanding that physicists hope to use conservation of energy in the LHC to determine if there are multiple dimensions AND if there is dark matter
The missing energy is just one "dimension" to the problem. In practice, you need many more (generalized) "coordinates". Different physics will show different behaviors in the interplay (correlations) between those coordinates, which has to be studied by simulation but is not necessarily model-dependent(*). In the literature, this us called "signature" for dark-matter for instance.

(*) For instance, you have a model predicting the existence of a spin 1/2 particle. Given the assumptions of this model, you calculate a cross-section. The angular decay in the rest-frame of your model-dependent particle is itself model-independent (or better, depends not on the assumptions of your own model, but only on Lorentz invariance)
 
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So with all of that other information they can determine how much of the missing energy is actually the mass of the particle?
 
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kashiark said:
So with all of that other information they can determine how much of the missing energy is actually the mass of the particle?
Depending on which reaction exactly, it may or may not be done on an event-by-event basis. But given the entire sample, using statistical analysis, yes. You may want to read about "Dalitz plots" for instance. Note that, otherwise (if they could not determine the mass of the missing particle), they would simply not understand anything !
 
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Huh, thanks! That's been bothering me for weeks.
 
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Also, note a very general thing : IF you manage to find an example where even in principle you can NOT distinguish between the two final states (say missing particle VS extra-dimension), THEN the two processes interfere (you can not add cross-sections, you must add the amplitudes). Typically, the production of your particle would be enhanced in some kinematical regions and suppressed somewhere else, due to extra-dimensions. Now in this case, it's not so trivial to make general statements. But you can already imagine that the dependencies become more complicated, say richer, and it's not impossible that you get a better handle on your parameters. But I expect that proponents of extra-dimensions would in any case like to cross check the results using another channel without this specific particle.
 

1. What are extra dimensions and how are they related to dark matter in the LHC?

Extra dimensions refer to theoretical dimensions beyond the three spatial dimensions (length, width, and height) that we experience in our everyday lives. They are a key concept in many theories that attempt to unify the fundamental forces of nature. In the context of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), extra dimensions are being investigated as a possible explanation for the existence and properties of dark matter.

2. How is the LHC being used to study extra dimensions and dark matter?

The LHC is the world's largest and most powerful particle accelerator, capable of producing high-energy collisions between particles. By analyzing the particles and energy produced in these collisions, scientists can search for evidence of extra dimensions and dark matter. The LHC's detectors are specifically designed to capture and measure the properties of these particles, providing valuable data for researchers.

3. What have scientists discovered about extra dimensions and dark matter at the LHC?

So far, the LHC has not found direct evidence of extra dimensions or dark matter. However, the data collected by the LHC has allowed scientists to rule out certain theories and parameters related to these concepts. This has helped to narrow down the search and guide future experiments and studies.

4. How do extra dimensions and dark matter impact our understanding of the universe?

Extra dimensions and dark matter are both important concepts in our quest to understand the fundamental laws of the universe. If extra dimensions exist, it could help to explain why gravity is so much weaker than the other fundamental forces. Dark matter, on the other hand, is thought to make up about 85% of the total matter in the universe and its existence is crucial to our understanding of the dynamics of galaxies and the large-scale structure of the universe.

5. What are the next steps in the search for extra dimensions and dark matter at the LHC?

The LHC is currently undergoing a major upgrade, known as the High-Luminosity LHC, which will significantly increase its collision rate and sensitivity to rare processes. This will allow scientists to search for signals of extra dimensions and dark matter with even greater precision. In addition, other experiments and theoretical studies are also being conducted to further explore these concepts and their potential implications for our understanding of the universe.

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