Telescope Size and Distance: Do We Need Four Times the Diameter?

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In summary, it is true that a star will appear 4 times dimmer if it is twice as far away from us. However, when viewing an object with a telescope, the light-gathering ability increases as a function of the square of the diameter of the primary mirror. Therefore, to maintain the same clarity when viewing an object twice as far away, the primary mirror of the telescope would only need to be twice the diameter, not 4 times larger.
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If a star is twice as far away, is it true that it will appear to us 4 times dimmer?

If this is true, can we assume that if we wish to view an object twice as far away while maintaining the same clarity, then the primary mirror of a telescope would have to be 4 times larger in diameter?
 
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Holocene said:
If a star is twice as far away, is it true that it will appear to us 4 times dimmer?

If this is true, can we assume that if we wish to view an object twice as far away while maintaining the same clarity, then the primary mirror of a telescope would have to be 4 times larger in diameter?
To your first question, yes. Ignoring any extinction, beaming effects, etc, the intensity of a light source that is radiating isotropically (equally in every direction) falls off as a function of the square of the distance between the source and the detector.

With the telescope question, you are missing a couple of things here. One is that light-gathering ability (assuming un-obscured, un-attenuated light paths) increases as a function of the square of the diameter of the primary. Ignore pi (essential for computing area) for now, and ignore central obstruction etc and look at the relation of a 10" mirror (10x10=100) and a 12" mirror (12x12=144). You're getting a pretty substantial increase in light-gathering ability for a modest increase in diameter. You're also gaining resolving power with that increase, though that does not follow the "squares law".
 
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Just to clarify, you need a telescope twice the diameter.
Twice as far away is 1/4 thr brightness so you need 4x the area, but this is only twice the diameter.
 

1. What are light-gathering abilities?

Light-gathering abilities refer to a system's capability to collect and transmit light in order to create a visual image. In scientific terms, it is the ability to capture and focus light onto a specific area or point.

2. How do light-gathering abilities affect visibility?

The greater the light-gathering abilities of a system, the more light it can collect and transmit, resulting in better visibility. This is why telescopes with larger apertures are able to see fainter objects in the night sky.

3. What factors determine light-gathering abilities?

The primary factor that determines light-gathering abilities is the size of the aperture, or opening, through which light enters. Other factors include the quality of the optics and the efficiency of the light-collecting material.

4. How do light-gathering abilities differ between different optical instruments?

The light-gathering abilities of optical instruments vary greatly depending on their design and purpose. For example, a telescope designed for deep space observation will have a larger aperture and better light-gathering abilities than a microscope used for viewing small specimens.

5. Can light-gathering abilities be improved or enhanced?

Yes, light-gathering abilities can be improved through various methods such as using larger apertures, utilizing special coatings on the optics, and optimizing the design of the instrument. However, there are limitations to how much they can be enhanced due to physical constraints.

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