Understanding Expectation Values in Quantum Mechanics

In summary, the conversation discusses the definition of the expectation value of an observable A, assuming the given state psi(x) and the value of A is given by A acting on psi(x). It also mentions the definition of the probability function, P(x), and the expectation value of A is then calculated using integration. It is clarified that A|psi> is not a value, but another state, unless psi is an eigenstate of A.
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dudy
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Let A be an observable (opeator), and we're assuming that for a given state psi(x), the value of A is given by A acting on psi(x), namely - A|psi>.
Also we assume that - P(x) = |psi(x)|^2
So, I'de expect the Expectation value of A to be defined like so:
<A> = Integral[-Inf:+Inf]{ P(x) A psi(x) dx} = Integral[-Inf:+Inf]{ |psi(x)|^2 A psi(x) dx} , which is not <psi|A|psi>, and that's clearly not right. where did i go wrong here?
 
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dudy said:
Let A be an observable (opeator), and we're assuming that for a given state psi(x), the value of A is given by A acting on psi(x), namely - A|psi>.

No. [itex]A|\psi\rangle[/itex] is not a value. It's another state, in general.

If [itex]|\psi\rangle[/itex] happens to be an eigenstate of the operator A, then [itex]A|\psi\rangle = a|\psi\rangle[/itex], where a is an eigenvalue of the operator A.
 
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got it, thank you!
 

1. How do you calculate the expectation value of a random variable?

The expectation value is calculated by multiplying each possible outcome of the random variable by its corresponding probability and then summing all of these products together.

2. What is the significance of the expectation value in statistics?

The expectation value is a measure of the average or most likely outcome of a random variable. It is a key concept in probability and statistics, providing a way to quantify the uncertainty of a random variable.

3. Is the expectation value the same as the arithmetic mean?

No, the expectation value is not necessarily the same as the arithmetic mean. The expectation value takes into account the probabilities of each outcome, while the arithmetic mean is simply the sum of all outcomes divided by the number of outcomes.

4. Can the expectation value be negative?

Yes, the expectation value can be negative. It is simply a mathematical calculation and does not necessarily have a physical interpretation. However, for certain applications, negative expectation values may not make sense.

5. How does the calculation of the expectation value change for continuous random variables?

For continuous random variables, the expectation value is calculated by integrating the product of the variable and its probability density function over the entire range of possible values. This is in contrast to discrete random variables, where the expectation value is calculated by summing the products of each possible outcome and its corresponding probability.

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