Solve for trig equation with 2 variables

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of solving a question involving the values of a trigonometric function and how to determine the number of solutions based on different values of a variable. The conversation also mentions using a graph to check the results and addressing the possibility of no solutions in certain cases.
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sunnybrooke
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I can solve the first part of the question. -2 ≤ k ≤ 2 because -1 ≤ sin(x) ≤ 1. How do I solve the second part of the question? Thanks.
 
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Forget k for a moment, and think about what values 2 sin(3x) can assume. For each such value v, you have 2 sin(3x) = v, or 2 sin(3x) + (-v) = 0. So your k values are the same as the values of -v.
 
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Michael Redei said:
Forget k for a moment, and think about what values 2 sin(3x) can assume. For each such value v, you have 2 sin(3x) = v, or 2 sin(3x) + (-v) = 0. So your k values are the same as the values of -v.

It may help to think about the graph of this function. It may even help to graph it. The 2 will increase the amplitude of the function and the 3 will scale the function. More specifically, it will "shrink" the function in the x direction (but it will not affect affect the amplitude). So from 0 to pi, the function will go completely up and down once and then be halfway done with a cycle. If you draw a horizontal line through this equation, how many solutions are there? (Hint: it depends on where the line is).
 
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http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP4251a45574034148cah00001164cg2h50a94c78?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=5&w=300&h=183&cdf=RangeControl

So if k:
is = -2, there will be 2 zeros
is between (-2,0] there will be 4 zeros
is between (0,2), there will be 2 zeros
is = 2, there will be 1 zero

Is that correct? Thanks.
 
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sunnybrooke said:
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP4251a45574034148cah00001164cg2h50a94c78?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=5&w=300&h=183&cdf=RangeControl

So if k:
is = -2, there will be 2 zeros
is between (-2,0] there will be 4 zeros
is between (0,2), there will be 2 zeros
is = 2, there will be 1 zero

Is that correct? Thanks.

That looks correct to me, but you should check your result by looking at a graph of the function, perhaps with k=0 if you haven't already done so.

One other small matter, which you probably take for granted, but you should still mention if this is a homework or exam problem: what happens when k > 2 or k < -2?
 
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sunnybrooke said:
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP4251a45574034148cah00001164cg2h50a94c78?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=5&w=300&h=183&cdf=RangeControl

So if k:
is = -2, there will be 2 zeros
is between (-2,0] there will be 4 zeros
is between (0,2), there will be 2 zeros
is = 2, there will be 1 zero

Is that correct? Thanks.

Very close. However, the only time that there are 4 solutions is when k=0. For k (-2,0), there are 3 solutions
 
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piercebeatz said:
Very close. However, the only time that there are 4 solutions is when k=0. For k (-2,0), there are 3 solutions

There are never only 3 solutions. For -2 < k < 0 just consider k = -1 and test x = π/18, 5π/18, 13π/18, 17π/18.
 
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Oops! Then what he said was correct
 
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Michael Redei said:
That looks correct to me, but you should check your result by looking at a graph of the function, perhaps with k=0 if you haven't already done so.

One other small matter, which you probably take for granted, but you should still mention if this is a homework or exam problem: what happens when k > 2 or k < -2?

You're right, I forgot to mention that. When k > 2 or k < 2, there are no solutions (because the amplitude is 2).

Additionally, could I approach this problem algebraically (without referring to a graph)?

Thanks.
 
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Never mind. Thank you Michael & piercebeatz.
 

What is a trig equation with 2 variables?

A trig equation with 2 variables is an equation that contains both a trigonometric function (such as sine, cosine, or tangent) and two unknown variables (typically x and y).

How do you solve a trig equation with 2 variables?

To solve a trig equation with 2 variables, you need to use trigonometric identities and algebraic techniques to isolate one variable on one side of the equation, and then use substitution to solve for the other variable.

What are some common strategies for solving trig equations with 2 variables?

Some common strategies for solving trig equations with 2 variables include using the Pythagorean identity, using the double angle formula, and using the sum and difference formulas.

Can a trig equation with 2 variables have multiple solutions?

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Solving trig equations with 2 variables can be useful in fields such as engineering, physics, and astronomy. For example, in engineering, trigonometric equations can be used to calculate angles and distances in structural design. In physics, trigonometric equations can be used to model the motion of objects in 2 dimensions. In astronomy, trigonometric equations can be used to calculate the positions of celestial bodies in the sky.

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