Interstellar Medium Around Sol / Interstellar Ramscoop

In summary: Bussard ramjets, to use as propellant for a fusion engine. That was because he wanted some reaction mass to throw out the back for thrust, same as any other rocket. In summary, the Interstellar medium is a complex and variable environment that includes categories such as Molecular clouds, Warm Neutral Medium, Clound Neutral Medium, Warm Ionized Medium, H II regions, and Coronal Gas/Hot Ionized Medium. The best description for the area around our solar system is the Local Interstellar Cloud, which has a temperature of about 6,000k and is mostly ionized. This may pose a challenge for designing an interstellar Ramjet-Augmented Interstellar Ramscoop, as the space
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MattRob
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So, I've read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium that the Interstellar medium varies greatly throughout space.

Of the categories listed; Molecular clouds, Warm Neutral Medium, Clound Neutral Medium, Warm Ionized Medium, H II regions, and Coronal Gas/Hot Ionized Medium, which best describes the area around our solar system?

I'm designing an interstellar Ramjet-Augmented Interstellar Ramscoop for some fiction, so it'd be nice to know if the space around the solar system is ionized or not, since I'd consider a magnet-based collector more or less a necessity in design.

If it's not, then what kind of battery of lasers would be needed to ionize the hydrogen in-between here and Tau Ceti? (12 LY appx.)
 
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You may have a problem with a ram-scoop near us due to the 'Local Bubble'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble

This 'too thin to scoop' zone may, incidentally, provide a plausible answer to 'Where Are They' for ET limited to c...
 
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Nik_2213 said:
You may have a problem with a ram-scoop near us due to the 'Local Bubble'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble

This 'too thin to scoop' zone may, incidentally, provide a plausible answer to 'Where Are They' for ET limited to c...

Well the local interstellar cloud is a good bit thicker...

Seems like at 6,000 *K hydrogen would have to be ionized. Atoms ionize when they have a certain amount of energy, right? So wouldn't that correspond to a certain temperature?
 
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NASA is using the term VLISM (very local interstellar medium) to describe what our heliosphere is currently interacting with. It turns out there is unexpected structure, emissions and physics in the new observations. In situ measurements with new hardware will be required to answer the many puzzles, they say.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011AcAau..69..767M
The ongoing Voyager Interstellar Mission (VIM) and recent observations from the Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) and Cassini missions are providing significant new information about the interaction of the heliosphere with the very local interstellar medium (VLISM). With new observations have come significant new puzzles for describing the interaction physics. Direct measurements of the shocked, solar-wind flow speed are now possible (from Voyager 2) and show the flow remains supersonic. This is one more piece of evidence supporting the idea that the bulk of the energy density in the plasma resides in a non-thermal component that extends to very high energies. There are both quantitative and qualitative implications for the overall heliospheric structure. Observations of energetic neutral atoms (ENAs) by IBEX (in Earth orbit) from the interaction region(s) of the solar wind and the VLISM show unexpected structure on a variety of scales. In addition to the general “glow” of the sky in ENAs, IBEX data show a relatively narrow “ribbon” of atomic hydrogen emission from ∼200 to ∼6 keV, roughly circular, but asymmetric in intensity, and centered on an ecliptic longitude ∼221 degrees and ecliptic latitude of 39 degrees. The ribbon may be ordered by the interstellar magnetic field. It passes through, rather than being centered on, the “nose” from which the local, neutral interstellar wind enters the Heliosphere, indicating that the flow is not the primary driver of the system as had been thought previously. The neutrals from both the glow and ribbon are also characterized by non-thermal distribution functions. ENAs are observed at higher energies as well by the Ion and Neutral Camera (INCA) on Cassini (in orbit about Saturn). A “belt” of emission, broader than the ribbon but similar to it, is seen up to ∼50 keV. These observations emphasize the need for in situ measurements to understand the global nature of our local galactic environment, which is much more complex than previously thought. Only an interstellar probe with modern instruments and measurement requirements better defined by these recent observations can provide the new information required.

Respectfully submitted,
Steve
 
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MattRob said:
So, I've read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium that the Interstellar medium varies greatly throughout space.

Of the categories listed; Molecular clouds, Warm Neutral Medium, Clound Neutral Medium, Warm Ionized Medium, H II regions, and Coronal Gas/Hot Ionized Medium, which best describes the area around our solar system?

I'm designing an interstellar Ramjet-Augmented Interstellar Ramscoop for some fiction, so it'd be nice to know if the space around the solar system is ionized or not, since I'd consider a magnet-based collector more or less a necessity in design.

If it's not, then what kind of battery of lasers would be needed to ionize the hydrogen in-between here and Tau Ceti? (12 LY appx.)

Assume it's ionized and you won't be too far wrong. But, as the other replies have noted, the LISM is under-dense compared to the average stretch of our Galaxy. Thin feed for a ramjet. How are you powering it BTW? I'm with "Project Icarus" and RAIR designs are one of my areas of research.
 
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I am curious to know how large the collector is. Fiction author Larry Niven's "ramships" had pretty large funnel-shaped magnetic fields (1 million KM - too long since I read them?)
 

1. What is the interstellar medium?

The interstellar medium (ISM) refers to the matter and radiation that exists between stars in a galaxy. It is made up of gas (mostly hydrogen and helium), dust, and cosmic rays.

2. How does the interstellar medium around the Sun affect our solar system?

The interstellar medium around the Sun can affect our solar system in a few ways. It can impact the movement and trajectory of objects within the solar system through gravitational interactions. It can also affect the amount of radiation and cosmic rays that reach our solar system, which can impact the Earth's climate and potentially disrupt communication and navigation systems.

3. What is a ramscoop and how does it work?

A ramscoop, also known as a Bussard ramjet, is a theoretical spacecraft propulsion system that uses a magnetic field to collect and compress interstellar hydrogen gas. This compressed gas is then heated and used as fuel for the spacecraft's engine, allowing it to travel through space at high speeds.

4. Can interstellar ramscoops be used for interstellar travel?

While the concept of interstellar ramscoops is promising, there are currently many technical and practical challenges that need to be overcome before they can be used for interstellar travel. These include finding a way to efficiently collect and compress the interstellar gas, developing a propulsion system that can use this fuel source, and dealing with potential hazards such as dust particles and radiation.

5. Is the interstellar medium uniform throughout the galaxy?

No, the interstellar medium is not uniform throughout the galaxy. It can vary in density, temperature, and composition in different regions. For example, the interstellar medium near a star-forming region may be denser and contain more heavy elements compared to the interstellar medium in the outskirts of a galaxy. Additionally, the interstellar medium can also be affected by the presence of supernovae, stellar winds, and other astrophysical processes.

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