Is it true you lose depth perception when looking out of one eye?

[SticksandStones]

I've heard this a lot - that you lose depth perception when looking out of only one eye. So I have to ask - is this true? When I try it everything looks exactly the same to me.

 

[Astronuc]

Yes. Two eyes means binocular vision.

If one uses one eye, the brain does try to compensate.

Try covering one eye and, perhaps with the help of a friend, gauge the distance to an object. Or alone, close one eye and reach for something about 18 inches or 0.5 m away - and see the difference between using one eye and two.

 

[Moonbear]

If one uses one eye, the brain does try to compensate.

Yes, if you're in a familiar surrounding, you already know where things are relative to one another, and can judge distance based on the apparent size of objects, because you already know their size, so your brain can compensate for the loss of visual information (you could navigate a familiar room fairly well with both eyes closed...blind people rely on this). Also, as you get closer to an object and move your head around to see different sides, you can compensate somewhat for lack of binocular vision.

If you really want to test this, go to an unfamiliar location and try to judge distance. Or, sit in an empty room or open field (where you won't have other clues about distance), and have a friend place objects at different distances when you aren't looking, and then with one eye closed, see how well you can identify which is the closer or farther object. Or, close your eyes, have someone choose a distance to stand from you, then open only one eye and try to throw a ball to them (choose something soft so you don't hurt them when your aim is off).

 

[SticksandStones]

Try covering one eye and, perhaps with the help of a friend, gauge the distance to an object.

I can't do this with both eyes open either :uhh:

If you really want to test this, go to an unfamiliar location and try to judge distance. Or, sit in an empty room or open field (where you won't have other clues about distance), and have a friend place objects at different distances when you aren't looking, and then with one eye closed, see how well you can identify which is the closer or farther object. Or, close your eyes, have someone choose a distance to stand from you, then open only one eye and try to throw a ball to them (choose something soft so you don't hurt them when your aim is off).

I'll try this later (except for the throwing one, which I can't do with both eyes open either :rofl: )

Thanks for the suggestions, although I still think everything looks the same. Are you supposed to be able to *see* a difference?

 

[TuviaDaCat]

you see depth with one eye since your memory can fill in the information. its impossible to tell the position is without two stationary sensors(i think it applies only for 2 dimension space, for 3 dimensions is take 3 sensors)

ask a friend to hide his whole body behind an object, and only show his two fingers(at a small distance) when one is behind the other, and try to observe which finger is closer(try this for a couple of times, since its a 50-50 chance for each observation to be true) and then try it with two eyes, youll see the difference

 

[Cyrus]

Classic example. Open both eyes.

Now 'point' with your left and right hands. Hold your hands out infront of you and touch the tips of your 'pointing fingers'

Now close one eye and see if you can do it, you cant.

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

I am not 100% sure about this but this simple thought experiment may account for it a little bit. I don't know how the brain works... but this is one reason why it may work for two eyes but not for 1 (it definitely won't work for one)

If you hold a pencil infront of your eyes and close one eye, and then take turns and close the other eye, you will notice that the two images that your eyes are receiving differ. In fact, the closer an object is, the more the two images differ (in respect to that object)... could this be how our brain judges depth? Maybe someone with a degree in biology can explain how it works. I would research into it but I can't right now.

The reason that you can't judge depth with only one eye is blatant, there is nothing for the brain to compare with. Think about holding two unsharpened pencils, one quite a bit further from the other, but it is bigger (the viewer does not know this) and it is held in such a position that the sizes look the same. If they were being hovered in the air so that you couldn't use other factors to judge, wouldn't they look to be the same distance? But with two eyes your brain could use the two separate images to compare them.

 

[verty]

An easy test is to take a tennis ball and then with only one eye open, bounce the ball against a wall and catch it.

 

[TuviaDaCat]

I am not 100% sure about this but this simple thought experiment may account for it a little bit. I don't know how the brain works... but this is one reason why it may work for two eyes but not for 1 (it definitely won't work for one)

If you hold a pencil infront of your eyes and close one eye, and then take turns and close the other eye, you will notice that the two images that your eyes are receiving differ. In fact, the closer an object is, the more the two images differ (in respect to that object)... could this be how our brain judges depth? Maybe someone with a degree in biology can explain how it works. I would research into it but I can't right now.

The reason that you can't judge depth with only one eye is blatant, there is nothing for the brain to compare with. Think about holding two unsharpened pencils, one quite a bit further from the other, but it is bigger (the viewer does not know this) and it is held in such a position that the sizes look the same. If they were being hovered in the air so that you couldn't use other factors to judge, wouldn't they look to be the same distance? But with two eyes your brain could use the two separate images to compare them.

well, it can be mathematically proven that in two dimensions, you may measure distance with two dot sized "angle sensors" placed in two points in space at a known distance between them. though i do not know if the brain uses the same way to calculate things(i believe not, since the eyes are very memory dependent, also the brain seem to prefer wacky ways to function, it never favored symmetry, unlike our contiuos mind)

one sensor can not do such thing, if it could, how would it determine whether an object is closer, or bigger? heh, i think that if we were not able to determine if an object is closer or bigger, then we would not know what length is, we would only see space as angles, quite odd it would be...

 

[arildno]

Well, my Dad was practically blind on one eye, and he said he didn't have much depth perception. Dads are often right, at least about themselves.

 

[Integral]

The quickest, easiest test I know about is simply touching your fingers. Close 1 eye, bring your hands up from your sides and touch your forefingers together.

 

[brewnog]

If you hold a pencil infront of your eyes and close one eye, and then take turns and close the other eye, you will notice that the two images that your eyes are receiving differ. In fact, the closer an object is, the more the two images differ (in respect to that object)... could this be how our brain judges depth? Maybe someone with a degree in biology can explain how it works. I would research into it but I can't right now.

You don't need a degree in biology to explain this.

Your two eyes are actually located in different places, a few inches apart.

Of course the images look different; it's like taking two photographs of the same object from completely different places.

 

[Monique]

So what happens in people who have had Corpus callosotomy: the surgical disconnection of the two brain hemispheres by cutting the neurological bridge that connects both hemispheres. Depth perception must have been lost.

Does anyone know of other everyday life things that these people are affected by?

There's an experiment that you show an object to the person's left eye only, the person can then not name the object because the tasks are handled by different brain hemispheres (left vision in the right brain hemisphere, speech in the left brain hemisphere) and since the brain hemispheres don't communicate, the left brain does not know what is going on.

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

You don't need a degree in biology to explain this.

True :rofl: , I made the post really quickly and didn't have much time to rethink my post. I was probably going to go on about something else but didn't. I wasn't pondering over why the images are different... if that's what you inferred somehow. I was not 100% sure whether this is the only tool the brain uses to judge distance, and was just pointing out that while my answer may be the common sense one, an expert may have a more complete explanation of some surprising sort. For example the amount that the lens of the eye has to change to bring an object into focus may also give hints as to the distance of an object.

Your two eyes are actually located in different places, a few inches apart.

Of course the images look different; it's like taking two photographs of the same object from completely different places.

Yes, this was my point.. The brain could use the differences in the two images to judge relative distance, whereas one eye couldn't, and that's why you can't have depth perception with only one eye unless you are familiar with the objects. Unless there is some surprise of some sort.

 

[twisting_edge]

You only lose your depth perception if you hold your head still. If you move your head around it comes right back without having to open your other eye.

The reason should be obvious from the descriptions already given.

 

[MadScientist 1000]

Strange fact: You loose depth perception when both of your eyes are closed.

 

[Cyrus]

Strange fact: You loose depth perception when both of your eyes are closed.

But your sonar goes way up!

 

[Moonbear]

So what happens in people who have had Corpus callosotomy: the surgical disconnection of the two brain hemispheres by cutting the neurological bridge that connects both hemispheres. Depth perception must have been lost.

I don't think that's necessarily true (but haven't looked into it either). The reason I don't think so is that the optic nerves cross before entering the brain, not after, so I don't think there's a need to have both sides of the brain connected for visual information to be correctly relayed.

You don't need a degree in biology to explain this.

Your two eyes are actually located in different places, a few inches apart.

Of course the images look different; it's like taking two photographs of the same object from completely different places.

Correct. The same concept applies to direction finding with hearing as well. The slight difference in phase and intensity of the sound wave as it hits your eardrums on either side of your head provide information about which direction the sound is coming from. Though, now I'm going to have to ask someone in the sensory neuroscience group how we distinguish between something directly in front of us vs. directly behind us.

 

[BobG]

I can't do this with both eyes open either :uhh:

I'll try this later (except for the throwing one, which I can't do with both eyes open either :rofl: )

Thanks for the suggestions, although I still think everything looks the same. Are you supposed to be able to *see* a difference?

Are your eyes different strengths? If one eye is much weaker than the other, you won't have very good depth perception. You don't notice because you fall in the habit of relying on your better eye, but that's the sort of thing a thorough eye exam picks up.

 

[SticksandStones]

Are your eyes different strengths? If one eye is much weaker than the other, you won't have very good depth perception. You don't notice because you fall in the habit of relying on your better eye, but that's the sort of thing a thorough eye exam picks up.

Nope, they're both equally poor (-10.0 in both eyes). I'm a really bad judger of distance, and I have little coordination which is why I sad those tests wouldn't work well for me.

 

[Monique]

I don't think that's necessarily true (but haven't looked into it either). The reason I don't think so is that the optic nerves cross before entering the brain, not after, so I don't think there's a need to have both sides of the brain connected for visual information to be correctly relayed.

Yes, but where does the image processing take place, it must be in the brain. So if the right brain gets information from the left eye and the left brain information from the right eye, will it be able to build up a 3d image if the two brain hemispheres don't communicate?

 

[Manchot]

If you hold a pencil infront of your eyes and close one eye, and then take turns and close the other eye, you will notice that the two images that your eyes are receiving differ. In fact, the closer an object is, the more the two images differ (in respect to that object)... could this be how our brain judges depth? Maybe someone with a degree in biology can explain how it works. I would research into it but I can't right now.

Yes, your eyes do exactly that. It's called parallax. In fact, astronomers can do the same thing when looking at the night sky. If you look at some star in January, and then wait until June and look at it again, the Earth will have moved a considerable distance away from where you first measured it.

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

Lol, every time I look at this thread I can't help but laugh at how I said we should call upon a biologist to give an expert opinion where nothing in my post required a biologist. Then brewnog thought I was deep in contemplation regarding why the pencil seems to move. :rofl:

But yes, I knew that is how we judge distance, I was just being careful not to act as if I was an authority on it. I was not 100% sure that the one eye could not judge distance in some other fashion, but I guess we didn't need a biologist. :rofl:.

I wiki'd parallax and that's exactly what I was getting at, cool.

 

[moose]

The quickest, easiest test I know about is simply touching your fingers. Close 1 eye, bring your hands up from your sides and touch your forefingers together.

Umm, I can do this with both of my eyes closed.

 

[JasonRox]

I tried some of the tricks you guys mentionned and none of them worked out as plan.

I even got my brother to do one or two without even telling with the purpose.

The only one left I have to try is the throwing the tennis ball at the wall and catching it. But, you can probably do this with your eyes closed. Your brain can most likely predict a good approximation to its trajectory, and having one eye open helps approximate it even better.

I tried throwing things to my brother so predictions can't be that great, but that didn't work as planned either.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Classic example. Open both eyes.

Now 'point' with your left and right hands. Hold your hands out infront of you and touch the tips of your 'pointing fingers'

Now close one eye and see if you can do it, you cant.

I had no trouble at all with one eye closed. There are simply too many visual and non-visual cues. I tried the following variation with much more success. Place a pencil across the diameter of a drinking cup (these are items I had at hand when I tried this) with the pencil point pointing to your right and the cup placed to your left. Now hold a pen in your right hand and move it from right to left parallel to the pencil. Touch the point of the pencil with the tip of the pen. I was unable to do this unless I had both eyes open.

I also tried the following. I held a pen in my hand roughly 4 inches closer to me than the front surface of a flat panel monitor (items at hand at the time) and off to the side of it by another 4 inches. With both eyes open, I could clearly see that the pen was closer to me. I closed one eye. I was unable to distinguish whether the pen was closer to me, it looked to me to be at the same distance as the monitor. I then moved my head from side to side in order to obtain more information. Although I moved my head a distance much longer than the distance between my two eyes, I was unable to capture enough. Of course, I was unable to distinguish using any single given viewpoint. But also, I was unable to distinguish by comparing two different viewpoints. The only thing that worked was when I moved my head more than a foot to one side so that the pen was in front of the monitor. But then I could tell without moving my head at all.

 

[Danger]

So what happens in people who have had Corpus callosotomy: the surgical disconnection of the two brain hemispheres by cutting the neurological bridge that connects both hemispheres. Depth perception must have been lost.

My knowledge of biology is severely limited, but isn't it true that half of the visual field of each eye goes to each hemisphere? In that case, depth perception should be maintained.
The touching of fingertips together isn't really a valid test either. Your kinsesthetic sense tells you where your limbs are even without you being able to see them, which is why you have no trouble touching your nose with your eyes closed. I just tried this as an experiment. While it's undoubtedly more difficult to get an exact alignment without binocular vision, I can invariable touch my forefingers together just a bit off-centre. The success rate (ie: how close to perfect the contact is) is exactly the same with one eye closed and with both closed.

 

[Stingray]

My knowledge of biology is severely limited, but isn't it true that half of the visual field of each eye goes to each hemisphere? In that case, depth perception should be maintained.

That's true. For each eye, the two halves of the retina are routed to opposite sides of the brain. Cutting the corpus callosum also doesn't completely sever both halves. There are still a lot of connections in other places, and these tend to compensate surprisingly well.