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Bilal
Hurkyl said:Which, at least according to Wikipedia, didn't actually happen, and actually is illegal in Denmark. (Though there did seem to be an attempt to organize it)
It did not happen, but some people tried to do that ...
Hurkyl said:Which, at least according to Wikipedia, didn't actually happen, and actually is illegal in Denmark. (Though there did seem to be an attempt to organize it)
cyrusabdollahi said:mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....yeah :uhh: :uhh: :uhh: :grumpy:
I guess you don't realize the hypocrisy in what you just said. Seems like you are just as guilty of looking for an excuse to fight as they are my friend.
Bilal said:I did not hear about that … and I am against the closed-mind poeple whatever their religion more than you can imagine. In ME we respect the Hindus and we really know a little about them. They used to a strong political alliance with Arab. Even during Pakistani-Indian wars, the Arab who supported India are more than those supported Pakistan.
I heard many people in ME angry after the destruction of Buddha …. But also we saw the extremists Hindus burning the Koran and hundreds of poor Indian kids and women because it happen they born in Muslims families!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/talking_point/1846352.stm
http://www.islamawareness.net/Persecution/Gujarat/
Extremist and stupidly exists in all religions and among all the nations!
Me also
Of course they can, and also Muslims nations have the right also to boycott and demonstrate. Those who using violence should be punished.
I am advocating non-violent free speech and free expression. Not bloodshed like these Muslims seem to be seeking.
If you can't see the difference between my "fight" and theirs, you are blind, my friend.
Many Muslims are violent, regressive azzholes, just spoiling for a fight on the slimmest excuse. They see nothing wrong with ridiculing the faith of others, yet take the deepest affront to the smallest perceived slight on theirs. Why should we reward such hypocrisy with understanding and "calls for calm" ? Why let them silence future voices
and future pens ? Why let them win ?
cyrusabdollahi said:And you are saying IM BLIND! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! So you just made a generalization about muslims, and then you say "and my criticisms largely do not apply to you and to Muslims who think the same way you do."----I think not---- your comment about muslims are violent azzholes, that means ALL of them.
cyrusabdollahi said:Then you should go buy a dictionary, as many implies the majority, hence it implies the societal norm for voilence.
cyrusabdollahi said:I still think you used a poor choice of words.
Assuming so, it's still only akin to burning flags. Not burning embassies. Or to these recent events mentioned at http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BDE659AF-5DD4-4DFB-AD2E-BD69D8ADFECB.htm :Bilal said:It did not happen, but some people tried to do that ...
cyrusabdollahi said:Many:
"The majority of the people; the masses: “The many fail, the one succeeds” (Tennyson)."
I can read. Like I said, you made the implication that the MAJORITY of muslims are voilent.
What I really want is for peace-loving Muslims to come out and condemn the violent demonstrations being conducted by these Muslims we see on the news. And holding placards that celebrate 9/11 and threaten violence and terrorism is not helping the cause either.
cyrusabdollahi said:I know it does warren, but so does any other religion.
http://www.cair-net.org/html/911statements.html
Here you go.
But the large majority of Muslims have remained silent on the issue. If they disagree with violence being committed, I would want them to speak up.
Instead those imams seem to be happy to fuel the flames, in some cases, directly ordering violence to be carried out.
Hurkyl said:Assuming so, it's still only akin to burning flags. Not burning embassies. Or to these recent events mentioned at http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BDE659AF-5DD4-4DFB-AD2E-BD69D8ADFECB.htm :
"In Islam, God said, and the messenger Mohammad said, whoever insults a prophet, he must be punished and executed," he told BBC radio by telephone.
"Britain issued a stern warning after a small group of protesters caused a storm by marching in London with placards threatening beheadings and bloodshed."
I am inclined to believe that Omar Bakri Mohammad did make that phone call, and is calling for the execution of the cartoonists.Bilal said:So if Mohammed did not care about what this women, do you think what was mentioned on BBC is true?
Hurkyl said:I am inclined to believe that Omar Bakri Mohammad did make that phone call, and is calling for the execution of the cartoonists.
AKG said:Does anybody have a link to the actual cartoons, so we can see them? Also, it seems this thread was started before the embassies were burned, and the last few pages of this thread have appeared to just degrade, so maybe there was some discussion of this in the middle pages that I skipped over, but it seems to me that whatever point the cartoonists were trying to make, it was probably proved by the violent, senseless acts of the people protesting the cartoons.
Yet when a delegation of Danish imams went to the Middle East to "discuss" the issue of the cartoons with senior officials and prominent Islamic scholars, the imams openly distributed a booklet that showed 15 images -- not only the original 12 cartoons, but three fraudulent anti-Mohammed depictions that were much more offensive than the ones published in Denmark. It is now thought that these three bonus images are what ignited the outrage in the Muslim world. The newspaper Ekstra Bladet obtained a copy of the booklet and presented the three offensive images on its Web site (though not in an easy-to-find place). All look like low-quality photocopies. Here they are:
(Hat tip: Gerry, Martin H., and rfs.)
So that's it : the major cause of this whole furore are 3 images cooked up by MUSLIMS ! Not just any old Muslims, HOLY MEN ! Just to inflame the situation further.
[mentor edited out the call for violence]
HAHA! Death threats against mullahs are OK, but PF will not allow the evil cartoon to be published here. The copyright objection is just lame--no one here believes you. State your real reason for not publishing the cartoon--or else lock this thread if this is a topic that should not be discussed.Curious said:[edited call for violence]
EnumaElish said:What you are saying is, muslims should not streotype all Danes. Or all Westerners.
cyrusabdollahi said:No, they should be exposed for their lies. That would be far worse to them, and more productive to Islams image.