Convolution with a normalised function

In summary, the conversation discusses the validity of the statement "Is it true that \int fdt = \int gdt?" in the context of convolution of two functions, f(t) and h(t). The speakers provide counterexamples in which the statement does not hold true, such as when h(t) is asymmetrical or when h(t) is not equal to 0 for t < 0. They also mention that this statement may not hold in the case of physical systems.
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TeraHammer
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Im struggling to find proof for this suspicion I have;

Given is a function f(t) and a normalised function h(t), and their convolution;

f(t) * h(t) = g(t)

Is it true that [tex]\int fdt = \int gdt[/tex] ?
 
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That is not always true, take some asymmetrical h, for example take:

[tex]f(t) = t[/tex]
[tex]h(t) = \frac{2}{3\sqrt{\pi}} (t-1)^{2} e^{-t^2}[/tex]

then

[tex]g(t)=\int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)h(t-x)\;dx = t +\frac{2}{3}[/tex]

and the primitive of f does not equal the primitive of g.
 
  • #3
Thanks, well spotted, but I was regarding physical systems, i.e.

[tex]h(t<0)=0[/tex]

Does it hold here?
 
  • #4
No in many cases it does not hold, for example take:

[tex] f(t) = t [/tex]
[tex]
h(t) = \left\{\begin{array}{ll}
0 & \;\;,t<0\\
1 & \;\;,0 \leq t \leq 1\\
0 & \;\;,t>1\\
\end{array}\right.
[/tex]

then

[tex] g(t)=\int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x)h(t-x)\;dx = \int_{t-1}^t x\;dx = t -\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

and the primitive of f does not equal the primitive of g.
 
  • #5


Yes, it is true that the integral of f(t) is equal to the integral of g(t) in this case. This can be proven by using the definition of convolution, which states that the integral of the convolution of two functions is equal to the product of their individual integrals. Since h(t) is a normalised function, its integral is equal to 1. Therefore, we can rewrite the convolution as:

f(t) * h(t) = f(t) * 1 = f(t)

This shows that the integral of f(t) is equal to the integral of g(t). Additionally, since h(t) is normalised, it represents a probability density function, meaning that the integral of g(t) represents the probability of obtaining the value t when convolving f(t) and h(t). This further supports the fact that the integral of g(t) is equal to the integral of f(t).
 

1. What is a normalised function in convolution?

A normalised function in convolution is a function that has been adjusted to have a total area under the curve of 1. This is achieved by dividing the function by the sum of its values, ensuring that the function is scaled appropriately for use in convolution.

2. Why is normalisation important in convolution?

Normalisation is important in convolution because it ensures that the resulting convolution function is scaled appropriately and accurately represents the relationship between the two input functions. Without normalisation, the convolution function may be skewed or distorted, making it difficult to interpret and use in further analyses.

3. How is a function normalised for convolution?

A function is normalised for convolution by dividing each value in the function by the sum of all values in the function. This ensures that the resulting function has a total area under the curve of 1, making it a valid and accurate input for convolution.

4. Can any function be normalised for convolution?

Yes, any function can be normalised for convolution as long as it has a finite area under the curve. This includes both continuous and discrete functions, as long as they meet this criteria.

5. What are the benefits of using normalised functions in convolution?

Using normalised functions in convolution allows for more accurate and interpretable results. It also makes it easier to compare and combine different convolution functions, as they will all be scaled the same way. Additionally, normalisation helps to reduce the effect of outliers and noise in the input functions, leading to more reliable results.

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