What is the meaning behind multiplication in Physics?

In summary, division is the fundamental concept of one magnitude being proportional to another, while multiplication represents the concept of applying one magnitude over another. In the example of amp-hours, it is a measure of the amount of charge and is calculated by multiplying the current (in amperes) by time (in hours). This concept can be compared to using area as a measure of size to compare two rectangular cakes with different dimensions.
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I understand the meaning behind Division fundamentally, such as one Magnitude being proportional to another. For example, v=m/s means meters per second. Or as a ratio, it means for every one second there is one meter.

What I can't seem to wrap my brain around is the concept of multiplying different types of Magnitudes together. Take for example Amp Hours (Ah) or A*h. What is the significance or meaning behind this? It is not a ratio, and have trouble understanding the meaning behind different types of units being multiplied together as opposed to one being divided by the other.
 
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Your example of amp-hours is a good one. Suppose you have a battery that will produce 1/2 amp at 24 volts. OK, that's nice to know, but suppose you need it to power a 24 volt light that requires 2 amps and you need it to do that for 10 hours. Will it do it? You have no idea.

BUT ... if you know that it is rated for 5 amp-hours, then you DO know whether or not it will do what you need it to do.
 
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Say it like this: 5 amp-hours is 5 amps for an hour.
 
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phinds said:
Suppose you have a battery that will produce 1/2 amp at 24 volts. OK, that's nice to know, but suppose you need it to power a 24 volt light that requires 2 amps and you need it to do that for 10 hours. Will it do it?
Probably not. I think you want the 24 volt light to also require 1/2 amp.

phinds said:
If you know that it is rated for 5 amp-hours
Then it can drive a 1/2 amp load for about 10 hours.

Since you know it's a 24 volt battery, then you know that the total energy stored in the battery is:

(24 volts) x (1/2) (amp) x (5 hours) x (3600 seconds / hour) ~= 216000 Joules
 
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actionwolf83 said:
I understand the meaning behind Division fundamentally, such as one Magnitude being proportional to another. For example, v=m/s means meters per second. Or as a ratio, it means for every one second there is one meter.

What I can't seem to wrap my brain around is the concept of multiplying different types of Magnitudes together.

So you understand v=d/t but don't understand d=v*t ?

actionwolf83 said:
Take for example Amp Hours (Ah) or A*h. What is the significance or meaning behind this? It is not a ratio,
A is the ratio here: A=C/s So: C=A*s or: 3600*C=A*h
 
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Ampere-hours is a measure of the amount of charge.

[tex]C(coulombs)= A(\frac{coulombs}{sec})×3600(\frac{sec}{hour})×h(hours)[/tex]
 
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In general it sort of means "Applied over..."

As A.T. pointed out, d=v*t is basically read, "Distance is equal to the velocity applied over t amount of time"

Or "Mass is equal to the density of the fluid applied over some volume, V."
 
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A metaphor:
Suppose there are two rectangle cakes. For them, everything is the same excepte the shape: the first one with side length 2 inchs and 2 inchs, the second one with side length 1.7 inchs and 2.35 inches. Now if we want to choose the bigger one and we are allowed to choose one of them but have no chance to see them directly. which one we can choose?
Now we need to define a new quantity area Ω
Ω=a*b
where a and b denot length and width of cakes. We use this quantity measure the size of cakes. When we compare this quantity Ω , we know the relation in size between the two cakes.
 

1. What is the concept of multiplication in physics?

Multiplication in physics is a mathematical operation used to represent the concept of repeated addition. It is commonly used to calculate quantities such as distance, velocity, and force.

2. How is multiplication used in physics equations?

Multiplication is used in physics equations to represent the relationship between two or more physical quantities. For example, the equation F = ma uses multiplication to represent the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration.

3. What is the significance of the units in multiplication in physics?

The units in multiplication in physics are crucial as they indicate the physical quantities being multiplied and the resulting unit of measurement. It is important to ensure that the units are consistent in order to get an accurate result.

4. Can multiplication be used to represent other concepts in physics?

While multiplication is most commonly used to represent repeated addition in physics, it can also be used to represent other concepts such as scaling or transformation. For example, in the study of electricity, multiplication is used to represent the concept of resistance.

5. How does the concept of multiplication in physics relate to real-life applications?

Multiplication in physics is used to understand and explain various phenomena in the natural world, from the motion of objects to the behavior of subatomic particles. It is also used in practical applications such as engineering, technology, and medicine to solve problems and make predictions based on physical principles.

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