Urgent: Is the Universe Finite or Infinite?

In summary, the discussion centers around the question of whether the universe is finite or infinite. It is stated that in order for the universe to be infinite, it would violate causality. Some relevant websites are suggested, including ones with cosmology FAQs and answers to commonly asked questions about the universe's size. It is noted that the universe appears to be flat and infinite in spatial extent, but this has not been proven. It is also mentioned that there have been previous discussions on this topic and a link to an article on Space.com is provided for further reading.
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Bringo
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Please I know that this question has ben asked many times, but I really need to get an answer on it. It's urgent.

Is the universe finite or infinite ?

If there is another thread discussing the question, please post the link.
Also any other link poiting to a relevant website is appreciated.

Thank you all for your time.
 
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In order for the universe to be infinite in extent, it would either have to be created that way in which case it cannot be traced to a cause and so causality is broken. Or it must have been expanding forever in which case we cannot trace it back to a cause. In either case, an infinite universe violates causality.
 
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Bringo said:
Is the universe finite or infinite ?

If there is another thread discussing the question, please post the link.
Also any other link poiting to a relevant website is appreciated.
...

you might enjoy these two websites which have
cosmology FAQ

Ned Wright (teaches graduate and undergrad cosmology courses at UCLA)
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

Eric Linder (similar standing at Berkeley, college textbook on cosmology)
http://supernova.lbl.gov/~evlinder/umass/faq.html

At Linder's site, see his answer to the frequently asked question
"How could an infinite universe have been, say, the size of a golf ball?"

At Wright's site, he answers the FAQ
"How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a point at the Big Bang?"

the main scientific observation is that the U does not appear curved at large scale
measurements using the microwave background indicate that the curvature is either exactly zero or very close to zero
it is so surprisingly flat that the simplest thing to assume is that it is exactly flat (but there is no way of being sure at present which is true, flat or within a percent or so)

if the U is flat (i.e. zero curvature) then by far the simplest model with that property is that it is infinite in spatial extent

this is consistent with the observations made so far, no reputable cosmologist will exclude the possibility and in fact it is the prevailing notion
(which is why Linder and Wright take care to explain it) BUT
it has not been proven

it is very difficult to distinguish, with telescopes and suchlike gear, between the case of an infinite uncurved universe and
the case of a very enormous universe with a very small positive curvature
where it goes out way way beyond the farthest we can see, so to us it looks flat, but then curves around and closes with itself so it is after all finite.

however you can't go wrong if you assume PROVISIONALLY that it is infinite because that agrees with the observations and is overall the simplest model

you are right, we have had several threads about this at PF
maybe you could find them by using the keyword search option at the top
 
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Check out an article on Space.com that attempts to answer that very question.
 
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Thx a lot, I am grateful to all of you
 

1. What is the current scientific consensus on whether the universe is finite or infinite?

The current scientific consensus is that the universe is most likely infinite in size. However, this is still a debated topic and there is no definitive answer.

2. How do scientists measure the size of the universe?

Scientists use various methods, such as measuring the cosmic microwave background radiation, to estimate the size of the observable universe. However, it is not possible to measure the entire universe due to its vastness.

3. What evidence supports the idea of an infinite universe?

One piece of evidence is the observation that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate. This suggests that the universe is infinite in size, as an infinite universe would have no boundary for it to expand into.

4. What are some arguments for a finite universe?

Some scientists argue that a finite universe is more plausible because it would follow the laws of thermodynamics, which state that energy cannot be created or destroyed. In a finite universe, this would mean that energy is limited and therefore the universe must also be limited in size.

5. How does the concept of time impact the debate on the finiteness of the universe?

Some theories, such as the cyclic model of the universe, propose that the universe is both infinite in size and has no beginning or end in time. Other theories, such as the Big Bang theory, suggest that the universe had a beginning and will eventually end. The concept of time is still a topic of debate in regards to the finiteness of the universe.

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