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Integrating a complicated polynomial

 
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Aug11-12, 11:40 PM   #1
 

Integrating a complicated polynomial


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Hi
An integration question:
t= 1/(1+r2)

Can you please show me how to integrate with respect to r. Thank you.



3. The attempt at a solution
∴t = (1+r2)-1
I then tried substituting u = 1+r^2 but that didn't work!
Is there a trick with this?
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Aug11-12, 11:56 PM   #2
 
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Well I'll hint and say it has to do with an inverse trig function.
Aug11-12, 11:57 PM   #3
 
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Just so I understand, you're trying to find the integral of this?
[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+r^2}\,dr[/tex]
BTW, what you have after the t is not a polynomial, but a rational expression.
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3. The attempt at a solution
∴t = (1+r2)-1
I then tried substituting u = 1+r^2 but that didn't work!
Is there a trick with this?
Yes, it's called trigonometric substitution. Try r = tan u.
Aug12-12, 12:01 AM   #4
 

Integrating a complicated polynomial


eumyang...thank you...yes thats what i meant.
Aug12-12, 12:05 AM   #5
 
NO idea! I tried r= tan u
1/(1+(tan u)^2)...
Too me that just seems even more worse!

Then (LET: < be integral sign/ integrand)
[latex]
= <1/(1+u) dr
= <(1/(1+u)) (secu)^2 du
= <((secu)^2/(1+u)) du [/latex]
Stuck...

and my latex is not working as well? Have I typed the wrong code?
Aug12-12, 12:12 AM   #6
 
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NO idea! I tried r= tan u
1/(1+(tan u)^2)...
Too me that just seems even more worse!

Then (LET: < be integral sign/ integrand)
[latex]
= <1/(1+u) dr
= <(1/(1+u)) (secu)^2 du
= <((secu)^2/(1+u)) du [/latex]
Stuck...
No no, put the two attempts together:
[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+r^2}\,dr = \int \frac{1}{1+\tan^2 u}\,\sec^2 u \, du[/tex]
You know your trig identities, right?

EDIT: Regarding LaTeX, that's because you're using the wrong tags. It should be tex or itex in the brackets, not latex.
Aug12-12, 12:12 AM   #7
 
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Aug12-12, 12:14 AM   #8
 
Oh wait is the answer:
u because 1+tan^2 u = sec^2 u
then
[tex] = ∫1 du
=u + C [/tex]
=tan(r)^-1 + C

Thank you for your help.
Aug12-12, 12:22 AM   #9
 
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oh wait is the answer u because 1+tan^2 u = sec^2 u
then <1
If you mean
[tex]\int 1[/tex]
...then you're missing something.
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=u
=tan(r)^-1 + C
Do you mean
[itex]\tan r^{-1} + C[/itex]
or
[itex]\tan^{-1} r + C[/itex]?
Aug12-12, 12:24 AM   #10
 
Opps... I meant [tex] tan-1 r+C [/tex]

Thank you so much for your help. Sorry for being lazy.
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