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Pengwuino
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cyrusabdollahi said:I think they lock the doors when they see Pengwuino coming.
And people wonder why the US doesn't have universal health care...
cyrusabdollahi said:I think they lock the doors when they see Pengwuino coming.
arildno said:Yes, even if he doesn't need to amputate anything, I think a wound like that will leave some permanent weakness, at least.
Napoleon's field surgeon could saw through a man's thigh in the course of 10 minutes, I believe. I think that was a record of sorts.wolram said:How do they amputate a limb whithout the patient bleeding to death? i mean it must take ages to saw through the bone, then they would have to seal every thing up some how.
arildno said:Napoleon's field surgeon could saw through a man's thigh in the course of 10 minutes, I believe. I think that was a record of sorts.
arildno said:Napoleon's field surgeon could saw through a man's thigh in the course of 10 minutes, I believe. I think that was a record of sorts.
Oh pretty careful. After four to six weeks of healing, they could wear a bikini and there wouldn't even be a visible incision line.Pengwuino said:How careful were they?
DaveC426913 said:Oh pretty careful. After four to six weeks of healing, they could wear a bikini and there wouldn't even be a visible incision line.
slugcountry said:a katana could do it in less than a second =) they should have hired some "medical" samurai
It seems you have been damned lucky.heartless said:Thank you all for good words. I waited entire night and tried to meditate and pain has decreased and I can move my two little toes again. Let me check the look of a foot right now. BRB
Astronuc said:Also, these days, I use a triple antibiotic like Neosporin (Neomycin sulfate, Bacitracin zinc, Polymyxin B Sulfate) on such wounds. Equates "triple antibiotic ointment" is the same.
Yes, I quite agree - and I think he got the message.Rach3 said:I doubt that will help him much - the label says quite clearly "In case of deep or puncture wounds... consult a doctor." Which is what everyone's been telling him since yesterday.
heartless said:Ok, the foot looks alright, as far no signs of any symptoms mentioned by arildno. Again thanks for listing them.
First, don't be sticking your finger inside the wound. You HAVE to be male.heartless said:Thank you all for good words. I waited entire night and tried to meditate and pain has decreased and I can move my two little toes again. Let me check the look of a foot right now. BRB
Ok, the foot looks alright, as far no signs of any symptoms mentioned by arildno. Again thanks for listing them. The only place where it hurts me is the punctured wound. When I push my finger onto it, it hurts, and when I walk, it also hurts me when I tauten the tendons in right foot, so I must assume that they're a little domagad. Hopefully everything will go fine.
Heartless READ THIS LINK!Rach3 said:No, no, NO! Do NOT try to self-diagnose yourself like this! Having no symptoms does NOT mean you are safe!
The first symptoms of tetanus - which you very likely will get, by the way - won't appear for a few days or weeks. It's too late by then! You would have a one in four chance of DYING - EVEN WITH TREATMENT! Do you understand this?
Read: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/696_tet.html
Pengwuino said:Kinda sad to think someones going to probably die on the forum.
This better not be some dipshoot joke like cyrus pulled on april fools.
Amputation isn't the worst-case-scenario. Death is. Tetanus is a horrible disease to die from, and completely preventable if you just get the booster shot in time. You don't hear about people dying from tetanus much anymore, and that's because we have vaccines and antibiotics available, and people get booster shots when they get injuries that put them at risk for it. There's just no reason to gamble with it.Mattara said:...
If worst comes to worst, there is always amputation. Heartless, try to google "amputation" and take a look at the pictures that come up. That is your future if you do not take our advice.
WHEN TO CALL YOUR DOCTOR FOR PUNCTURE WOUND
Call 911 Now (your child may need an ambulance) If
Puncture on the head, neck, chest or abdomen that may go deep.
Call Your Doctor Now (night or day) If
You think your child has a serious injury.
Puncture on the head, neck, chest, abdomen that isn't deep.
Puncture overlying a joint.
Tip of the object is broken off and missing.
Feels like something still in the wound.
Won't stand (bear weight or walk) on punctured foot.
Needle stick from used or discarded injection needle.
Sharp object or setting was very dirty (e.g., a barnyard).
No previous tetanus shots.
Dirt (debris) or pencil lead pigment is not gone after 15 minutes of scrubbing.
Severe pain.
Wound looks infected (redness, red streaks, swollen, tenderness).
Fever occurs.
Call Your Doctor Within 24 Hours (between 9am and 4pm) If
You think your child needs to be seen.
Last tetanus booster was over 5 years ago.
http://www.bchealthguide.org/kbase/topic/symptom/pntwd/overview.htmTetanus
Tetanus (lockjaw) is a preventable but life-threatening bacterial infection that causes muscle spasms, difficulty opening the mouth (lockjaw), difficulty swallowing, and seizures. Tetanus bacteria are usually found in dirt and soil; they typically enter the body through a wound or cut.
Tetanus bacteria thrive only in the absence of oxygen. The deeper and narrower the wound, the less oxygen is around it, and the greater the possibility of tetanus. For example, tetanus bacteria can thrive in a puncture wound from a dirty nail.
Proper vaccination prevents tetanus. Before age 6, children receive a tetanus vaccination along with other regularly scheduled immunizations. People older than 6 years should have a tetanus booster shot every 10 years; in people age 7 and older, the tetanus booster is often combined with the diphtheria booster in a single shot (the Td booster).
A person who has a dirty cut or wound should get a tetanus shot within 48 hours if at least 5 years have passed since his or her last tetanus immunization.
http://www.bchealthguide.org/kbase/frame/sig30/sig3065/frame.htmAn additional medicine to prevent tetanus (hyperimmune globulin) may be needed when a wound is very dirty or at high risk of a tetanus infection and when the tetanus immunization schedule:
Is not known.
Is uncertain.
Has not been completed.
Tetanus immunization protects against tetanus (lockjaw), a bacterial infection that can occur when tetanus bacteria get in a wound (break in the skin or mucous membrane). Tetanus bacteria usually are found in the soil, especially dirty areas, such as areas with animal feces. The dirtier the wound, the higher the risk of tetanus. However, tetanus can also develop in a clean wound.
Tetanus bacteria enter the body through skin wounds and thrive only in the absence of oxygen. So, the deeper and narrower the wound and the less oxygen around the wound, the greater the possibility of tetanus. Preventing tetanus infection is important, because tetanus is often fatal.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/first-aid-puncture-wounds/FA00014If the puncture is deep, is in your foot, is contaminated or is the result of an animal or human bite, see your doctor. He or she will evaluate the wound, clean it and, if necessary, close it. If you haven't had a tetanus shot within five years, your doctor may recommend a booster within 48 hours of the injury.
http://www.ncemi.org/cse/cse1015.htmPresentation
Most commonly, the patient will have stepped or jumped onto a nail. There may be pain and swelling but often the patient is only asking for a tetanus shot and can be found in the emergency department with his foot soaking in a basin of iodine solution. The wound entrance usually appears as a linear or stellate tear in the cornified epithelium on the plantar surface of the foot.
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Clean the surrounding skin and carefully inspect the wound with the patient lying prone, with good light and adequate time. Examine the foot for signs of deep injury such as swelling and pain with motion of the toes. Although unlikely, test for loss of sensory or motor function.
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Most puncture wounds only require simple debridement and irrigation, but with deep, highly contaminated wounds, seek orthopedic consultation to consider a wide debridement in the operating room to prevent the catastrophic complication of osteomyelitis.
Background: Osteomyelitis is an acute or chronic inflammatory process of the bone and its structures secondary to infection with pyogenic organisms.
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Direct or contiguous inoculation osteomyelitis is caused by direct contact of the tissue and bacteria during trauma or surgery. Direct inoculation (contiguous-focus) osteomyelitis is an infection in the bone secondary to the inoculation of organisms from direct trauma, spread from a contiguous focus of infection, or sepsis after a surgical procedure. Clinical manifestations of direct inoculation osteomyelitis are more localized than those of hematogenous osteomyelitis and tend to involve multiple organisms.
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In the US: The overall prevalence is 1 per 5,000 children. Neonatal prevalence is approximately 1 per 1,000. The annual incidence in sickle cell patients is approximately 0.36%. The prevalence of osteomyelitis after foot puncture may be as high as 16% (30-40% in patients with diabetes).
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Morbidity can be significant and can include localized spread of infection to associated soft tissues or joints; evolution to chronic infection, with pain and disability; amputation of the involved extremity; generalized infection; or sepsis. Up to 10-15% of patients with vertebral osteomyelitis will develop neurologic findings or frank spinal-cord compression.
Oh, I really hope you went. If you did, please let us know when you get back so we can stop worrying about you so much.heartless said:I think I have just won a lift to a hospital. We'll see in 5 minutes.