Question about defn. of derivative

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In summary, the conversation discusses the existence of the derivative and the relationship between the derivative and a sequence of functions. It is mentioned that the definition does not require uniformity in x and that the two formulations are equivalent.
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Let [itex]\{h_n\}[/itex] be ANY sequence of real numbers such that [itex]h_n \neq 0[/tex] and [itex]h_n \to 0[/itex]. If [itex]f'(x)[/itex] exists, do we have

[tex]
f'(x) = \lim_{n\to \infty} f_n(x),
[/tex]

where
[tex]
f_n(x) = \frac{1}{h_n} (f(x+h_n) - f(x))
[/tex]

?

This seems to express the derivative as the pointwise limit of a sequence of functions...right? Do we know, in addition, that the convergence is uniform?
 
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Uniform in what sense? The definition does not require uniformity in x.
 
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mathman said:
Uniform in what sense? The definition does not require uniformity in x.

Ok, I'm not sure :) I didn't really think before writing out that question. But am I right on all other counts?
 
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You are right, but it is more cumbersome than the usual approach where:

f'(x)=lim(h->0) (f(x+h) - f(x))/h
 
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[itex] lim_{x\to a} f(x)= L[/itex] if and only if [itex]\lim_{n\to \infty} f(a_n)= L[/itex] for every sequence [itex]\{a_n\}[/itex] that converges to a. The two formulations are equivalent.
 

What is the definition of a derivative?

The derivative of a function at a given point is the instantaneous rate of change of the function at that point. It represents the slope of the tangent line to the function at that point.

How is the derivative calculated?

The derivative can be calculated using various methods, such as the limit definition of a derivative or using rules such as the power rule, product rule, and chain rule.

What is the importance of derivatives in mathematics?

Derivatives are important in mathematics because they allow us to understand the behavior and properties of functions. They are used in calculus to find maximum and minimum values, determine concavity, and solve optimization problems.

Can the derivative of a function be negative?

Yes, the derivative of a function can be negative. This means that the function is decreasing at that point. A negative derivative also indicates a negative slope of the tangent line, which means the function is decreasing at a faster rate.

What is the relationship between derivatives and integrals?

Derivatives and integrals are inverse operations. The derivative of a function is the rate of change of the function, while the integral of a function is the accumulation of the function. This relationship is known as the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.

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