Finding Stationary Points in a Rational Function

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In summary, the conversation is about finding stationary points for the equation f(x) = 1/(x+3) + 1/(x-1). The derivative is found to be -1/(x+3)^2 -1/(x-1)^2 and set equal to 0 to find the stationary point. However, after simplifying, it is found that there is no real solution. The conversation then discusses looking at the second derivative, f'', to find the turning point, which is found to be at x = -1. The function is always decreasing and has three continuous sections.
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i have been give the equation

f(x) = 1/(x+3) + 1/(x-1)

i am trying to find the stationary points. so

f '(x) = -1/(x+3)^2 -1/(x-1)^2

f '(x) = 0 for stationary point

then when i simplified down i get 2x^2+4x+5 = 0, which is undefinable

i looked at the derivative on the graph and it looks like it has a turning point at (-1,0).

please help, either i have made an easy mistake or somethings wrong! :cry:
 
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Yeah, looks like the derivative has a "turning point" around x = -1. However, that doesn't mean that the derivative IS zero at that point, it means that the derivative of the derivative is zero there. If you wanted to x such that f'(x) = 0, you'd look for the places where f'(x) crosses the x-axis (which, in this case, it doesn't appear to do).
 
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Shouldn't it be 2x^2 + 4x + 10 =0. this has no real solution so the function is always increasing.

You got to look at the second derivative (f'') of this function and solve f'' = 0. Then you will get the x-coördinate of the turning point. Substituting this x-value into f(x) yields the y-value.


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marlon
 
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marlon:
The function is always decreasing, not increasing!
The function doesn't have any stationary points.
The function has three continuous sections , each of them decreasing; the intervals where the function is defined are:
[tex]-\infty<{x}<{-3},-3<{x}<{1},1<x<\infty[/tex]
 
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arildno said:
marlon:
The function is always decreasing, not increasing!

yes that is correct. Forgot the minus sign in the first derivative...

Thanks for the correction.

regards
marlon
 

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