Taylor series of real function with zero radius of convergence

In summary, the conversation discusses the search for an example of a real function that is indefinitely derivable at some point x=a, but whose Taylor series centered around that point only converges at that point. After considering various options, such as the function e(-1/x2) and power series, two popular examples are suggested: Σn!x^n and Σexp(-n)cos((n^2)* x). However, it is noted that these examples have their own limitations and a more formal approach is needed. Finally, the conversation concludes with a recommendation to consult the book "Counterexamples in Analysis" for further insight and examples.
  • #1
BobbyBear
162
1
Can anyone please give me an example of a real function that is indefinitely derivable at some point x=a, and whose Taylor series centered around that point only converges at that point? I've searched and searched but I can't come up with an example:P

Thank you:)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
I think I'm starting to believe that such a function doesn't exist:P Ima think about proving this . . .
 
  • #3
Try e(-1/x2)

At x=0, the function and all its derivatives =0.
 
  • #4
Ahh mathman, thank you but no, that wasn't what I was looking for . . . that is an example of a function that is indefinately derivable at x=0 but not analytic at x=0 because its Taylor series at x=0 has all its terms equal to nil and so does not equal the function in any neighbourhood of the point . . . but the Taylor series itself does converge (in fact, its radius of convergence is infinity, if you can talk about a series with all its terms equal to zero converging, and it converges to the function f(x)=0), if not to the function e(-1/x2).

What I am trying to find is a function whose Taylor series about a certain point has a radius of convergence equal to zero :P That is, it does not equal any function in any neighbourhood of the point it is constructed around. I know a power series in general can have zero radius of convergence, but I'm thinking that such is not the case for power series that are Taylor series... (o.o, what is the plural of series? o: I was about to say serieses, or serii :P:P)

Thank you anyhow :)
 
  • #5
Two popular examples
see _Counterexamples in Analysis_ Gelbaum and Olmsted
Σn!x^n
Σexp(-n)cos((n^2)* x)
in each sum n=0,1,...
 
  • #6
*flails* omg lurflurf, this is so exciting! I've got to look for that book!
Thank you, thank you! (although I was hoping that my suspicions were correct :(
 
  • #7
mathman said:
Try e(-1/x2)

At x=0, the function and all its derivatives =0.

The Taylor series of that has infinite radius of convergence. It just isn't equal to the function except at 0.
 
  • #8
*nods*
I agree with Hallsof
 
  • #9
aww but lurflurf,

Σexp(-n)cos((n^2)* x)

is not a power series is it? And though

Σn!x^n

is a power series, it's not the Taylor series of a function is it?, coz that would mean f(n)(x0=0)=(n!)^2 and I'm doubting such a function f exists.. :(

Ima try and get hold of that book anyway and have a look:P

Thank you,
Bobby
 
  • #10
BobbyBear said:
aww but lurflurf,

Σexp(-n)cos((n^2)* x)

is not a power series is it? And though

Σn!x^n

is a power series, it's not the Taylor series of a function is it?, coz that would mean f(n)(x0=0)=(n!)^2 and I'm doubting such a function f exists.. :(

Ima try and get hold of that book anyway and have a look:P

Thank you,
Bobby
This is one of those many counterexamples in analysis are confusing to construct because they are messy looking and use a type of function we are not ussed to.


Σexp(-n)cos((n^2)* x)
is not in the form of a power series, but it has a power series form that diverges for all x except 0. Giving the function this way avoids the problem with

Σn!x^n
which is questionable as a definition of a function since it only converges when x=0. Defining any function by power series require additional conditions since by our previous example we cannot tell the difference between f and f+exp(-1/x^2) by looking at their Maclaurin expansion. We may be more formal and say Σn!x^n is an example of a function whose Maclurin expansion has radius of convergence 0 if there exist functions having that expansion. Indeed there are, the example given in _Counterexampple in Analysis_ is
f=Σfn(x)
where
fn(x)=[n antiderivatives of]{n!^2) if 0<=|x|<=2^-(n+1)/(n+1)!^2, 0 otherwise}
 
  • #12
Thank you lurflurf, and thanks for the links too, wow there seems to be an answer to everything . . . or almost:P:P I've skimmed through these bedazzling examples but I shall read over more carefully as soon as I can. Thank you!
 

1. What is a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence?

A Taylor series with zero radius of convergence is a mathematical representation of a real function that cannot be approximated using a Taylor series. This means that the series does not converge to the original function for any value of the input variable.

2. Why does a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence exist?

A Taylor series with zero radius of convergence exists when the function has a singularity or discontinuity at the center point of the series. This means that the function is not defined or is undefined at that point, making it impossible to approximate the function using a Taylor series.

3. How is a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence different from a regular Taylor series?

A regular Taylor series has a finite radius of convergence, meaning that it can approximate the original function within a certain interval. However, a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence does not have an interval of convergence and cannot approximate the function at all.

4. Can a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence still be useful?

Yes, a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence can still be useful in some cases. It can provide insight into the behavior of a function near a singularity or discontinuity, and can also be used to approximate the function in certain regions outside of the singularity.

5. How can a Taylor series with zero radius of convergence be evaluated?

A Taylor series with zero radius of convergence can be evaluated using alternative methods such as numerical integration or interpolation techniques. It is important to note that the accuracy of these evaluations may be limited due to the singularity or discontinuity of the function.

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
12K
Replies
2
Views
758
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • General Math
Replies
23
Views
2K
Back
Top