NRC Rankings - are S rankings a leading indicator for R rankings?

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In summary, there is a distinction between the S and R rankings, with the former measuring what professors look for and the latter measuring reputation. Reputation takes time to develop and lose, and a university scoring high on S rankings relative to R rankings may not necessarily result in a higher position on the R rankings. The NRC rankings are often disputed due to the subjective nature of the weighting process. There is a widespread obsession with rankings that the speaker finds absurd.
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Here's some more interesting information: http://scienceblogs.com/catdynamics/2010/09/nrc_the_rankings.php

Roughly speaking, the S rankings measure which schools have the most of what professors look for, whereas the R rankings measure reputation. Reputation, however, takes time to develop (one must prove oneself first). And it also takes time to lose (with institutions, at least). If a university scores high on S rankings relative to the R rankings, then can you usually expect it to move up on the R rankings?
 
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Simfish said:
Roughly speaking, the S rankings measure which schools have the most of what professors look for, whereas the R rankings measure reputation. Reputation, however, takes time to develop (one must prove oneself first). And it also takes time to lose (with institutions, at least). If a university scores high on S rankings relative to the R rankings, then can you usually expect it to move up on the R rankings?

I really think that rankings are rather bogus. One reason that the NRC rankings took so long to come out is that you had fierce battles behind the scenes over how to process the numbers, and you can basically get whatever order that you want by changing the weights.

There is this odd obsession with rankings that I find absurd.
 

1. What do the NRC rankings measure?

The NRC (National Research Council) rankings measure the research productivity and quality of graduate programs in various fields of study.

2. How are the S rankings different from the R rankings?

The S (survey) rankings are based on data collected from surveys of faculty and students, while the R (regression) rankings use statistical analysis to measure the research productivity of a program.

3. Are S rankings a reliable indicator for R rankings?

While S rankings can provide some insight into a program's quality, they are not always a reliable indicator for R rankings. This is because S rankings are subjective and may be influenced by factors such as reputation and personal opinions.

4. What factors are considered in the NRC rankings?

The NRC rankings consider a variety of factors, including research activity, student outcomes, faculty productivity, and institutional resources.

5. How often are the NRC rankings updated?

The NRC rankings are typically updated every 10-15 years, as the data collection and analysis process is time-consuming and resource-intensive.

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