Is Time Bending the 3rd Dimension in Spacetime Curvature?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of spacetime curvature and how it is represented in the linked picture. It is clarified that the picture shows the curvature of space, not spacetime itself. The idea of bending dimensions is also discussed, with a mention of how it can be represented in a 2d grid. The conversation also includes a link for further explanation on the difference between space and spacetime curvature.
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overcaffein8d
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Spacetime_curvature.png"

The picture linked above shows the spacetime curvature. Apparently, it's a 3d model.

But it's not! What i think (and basically trying to find out about) is that space itself is imagined as the 2d grid. What the Earth does is bends it into the 3rd dimension.

So, with an actual 3d grid, wouldn't this actually be bending not space [3rd dimension] but time [4th]? instead of bending the 2nd dimension into the 3rd, i think it would bend the 3rd into the 4th.
 
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What i think (and basically trying to find out about) is that space itself is imagined as the 2d grid. What the Earth does is bends it into the 3rd dimension.
That's what the picture does. The concept is that Earth bends these two dimensions in itself, not into a third dimension. The third dimension is merely to help your imagination.
In real life, there are 4 dimensons which are bent not into a fifth dimension, but into themselves.
 
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overcaffein8d said:
But it's not! What i think (and basically trying to find out about) is that space itself is imagined as the 2d grid. What the Earth does is bends it into the 3rd dimension.
Exactly, it shows only the curvature of space not spacetime. The difference is explained here:
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/demoweb..._and_general_relativity/curved_spacetime.html

overcaffein8d said:
So, with an actual 3d grid, wouldn't this actually be bending not space [3rd dimension] but time [4th]?
Depends how you define the grid dimensions. You can also have a 2d grid, representing 1 space dimension and the time dimension, to show the curvature of spacetime. This is done in the links I provided in https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1557122&postcount=4".
 
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thanks for the quick response.

dude. that is cool.
 

1. What is spacetime bending?

Spacetime bending is the concept in physics that describes how gravity affects the fabric of space and time. According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, massive objects such as planets and stars cause a curvature in spacetime, which results in the force of gravity.

2. How does spacetime bending affect the movement of objects?

Spacetime bending affects the movement of objects by altering the path that they follow. Objects with mass will move along the curvature of spacetime, which means that their motion will be influenced by the gravity of other massive objects in the vicinity.

3. Can spacetime bending be observed?

Yes, spacetime bending can be observed through various phenomena such as gravitational lensing, where the light from distant objects is bent by the gravity of massive objects in between them and the observer. Gravitational waves, which are ripples in spacetime, also provide evidence of spacetime bending.

4. Is spacetime bending the same as time travel?

No, spacetime bending and time travel are not the same. While spacetime bending can affect the perception of time and the movement of objects, it does not allow for traveling back in time. Time travel remains a theoretical concept and has not been proven to be possible.

5. How is spacetime bending related to the theory of relativity?

Spacetime bending is a fundamental concept in Einstein's theory of general relativity, which revolutionized our understanding of gravity. The theory states that the force of gravity is not a force between masses, but rather a result of the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of massive objects.

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