How does life defy the laws of thermodynamics?

In summary, the conversation discusses the compatibility of life with the second law of thermodynamics. It is explained that life is a self-organized system, where organization arises spontaneously and leads to a state of higher entropy. The confusion lies in the identification of entropy with disorder, when in fact, life can be seen as organized disorder. The source provided is in Croatian and an English version is requested.
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How can life be compatible with the second law of thermodynamics?

Here is how. Life is a self-organized system. A self-organized system is a system in which organization arises SPONTANEOUSLY, which means that the probability of the appearance of organization is large. But this means that self-organization is also a transition to a more probable state, i.e., to a state of higher entropy.

The confusion arises when entropy, i.e. highly probable state, i.e. disorder - is identified with the lack of organization. Disorder and the lack of organization are not the same. One can say that life is an organized disorder.

Source (in Croatian):
http://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=31392743&postcount=83
 
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Very interesting. Do you know an english version?
 

1. What does it mean when we say "life is an organized disorder"?

When we say "life is an organized disorder," we are referring to the idea that although life may seem chaotic and unpredictable, there is still a level of organization and structure that exists within it.

2. How does this concept apply to biological systems?

In biological systems, "life is an organized disorder" means that living organisms are made up of complex and intricate systems that work together in a chaotic yet organized manner to sustain life. These systems include metabolism, reproduction, and response to stimuli, among others.

3. How does this concept relate to evolution?

Evolution is another example of "life is an organized disorder." It is the process by which organisms adapt and change over time in response to their changing environment. This chaotic yet organized process allows for the diversity and complexity of life on Earth today.

4. Can this concept be applied to non-biological systems?

Yes, the concept of "life is an organized disorder" can also be applied to non-biological systems, such as social systems or even the universe itself. These systems may seem chaotic and unpredictable, but there is still a level of organization and structure that exists within them.

5. What implications does this concept have on our understanding of life?

The concept of "life is an organized disorder" challenges traditional notions of order and chaos. It suggests that life is a complex and dynamic interplay between the two, and that there is beauty and functionality in this seemingly chaotic nature. This understanding can help us appreciate the intricacies of life and our place within it.

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