Why is the Lagrangian density for fields treated as a functional in QFT?

In summary, some QFT texts use the Euler-Lagrange equation for a scalar field where ##\cal L## is treated as a functional, but this notation can be misleading as ##\cal L## is actually a function of the fields and their derivatives. This is often done to distinguish the variational derivatives from the coordinate derivatives.
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This is probably a minor point, but I have seen in some QFT texts the Euler-Lagrange equation for a scalar field,

[tex] \partial_{\mu} \left(\frac{\delta \cal{L}}{\delta (\partial_{\mu}\phi)}\right) - \frac{\delta \cal L}{\delta \phi }=0 [/tex]

i.e. [itex] \cal L [/itex] is treated like a functional (seen from the [itex] \delta [/itex] symbol). But why would it be a functional? Functonals map functions into numbers, and in our case [itex] \cal L [/itex] is a function of the fields (and their derivatives).
 
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If you want to be completely rigorous, the action is the true functional. The variational derivatives of the Lagrangian (density) should be considered distributions.
 
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But why should there be a functional derivative of [itex] \cal L [/itex]? we have [itex] \cal L [/itex] which is a function of [itex] (\phi, \partial_\mu \phi) [/itex] and we differentiate (as a function) with respect to [itex] \partial_\mu \phi [/itex]
 
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spookyfish said:
This is probably a minor point, but I have seen in some QFT texts the Euler-Lagrange equation for a scalar field,

[tex] \partial_{\mu} \left(\frac{\delta \cal{L}}{\delta (\partial_{\mu}\phi)}\right) - \frac{\delta \cal L}{\delta \phi }=0 [/tex]

i.e. [itex] \cal L [/itex] is treated like a functional (seen from the [itex] \delta [/itex] symbol). But why would it be a functional? Functonals map functions into numbers, and in our case [itex] \cal L [/itex] is a function of the fields (and their derivatives).
If they wrote it that way it's a misprint. The derivatives should be ∂'s, not δ's.
 
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spookyfish said:
But why should there be a functional derivative of [itex] \cal L [/itex]? we have [itex] \cal L [/itex] which is a function of [itex] (\phi, \partial_\mu \phi) [/itex] and we differentiate (as a function) with respect to [itex] \partial_\mu \phi [/itex]

It's common to abuse the notation and use ##\delta## for these derivatives in order to distinguish them from the coordinate derivatives ##\partial_\mu##.
 

What is Lagrangian density for fields?

Lagrangian density for fields is a mathematical concept used in field theories to describe the dynamics of a system. It is a function that represents the energy of a field at each point in space and time.

How is Lagrangian density for fields related to Lagrangian mechanics?

Lagrangian density for fields is an extension of Lagrangian mechanics, which is used to describe the dynamics of particle systems. Instead of considering each particle individually, Lagrangian density for fields takes into account the behavior of a field over all of space and time.

What are the equations used to describe Lagrangian density for fields?

The equations used to describe Lagrangian density for fields are the Euler-Lagrange equations. These equations involve taking the derivative of the Lagrangian density with respect to the field variables, and setting them equal to 0. This results in a set of equations that describe the evolution of the field over time.

What is the significance of Lagrangian density for fields in physics?

Lagrangian density for fields is a fundamental concept in theoretical physics, as it is used to describe the behavior of fields in a variety of physical phenomena. It is particularly important in quantum field theory and in the study of fundamental forces, such as electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces.

How is Lagrangian density for fields used in practical applications?

Lagrangian density for fields is used in practical applications to make predictions about the behavior of physical systems. It is used in a wide range of fields, including particle physics, cosmology, and condensed matter physics, to study phenomena such as the behavior of subatomic particles and the properties of materials.

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