Black Holes & Light: Theory or Fact?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of string theory and how it relates to the speed of light and gravity. It also raises the question of why we cannot see black holes if both light and gravity work at the same speed. The explanation is that the escape velocity inside the event horizon of a black hole is greater than the speed of light, preventing any light from escaping and being seen directly. However, light from objects falling into the black hole before reaching the event horizon can still be seen. The conversation also touches on the bending of light by gravity and how it relates to the concept of a black hole acting as a lens.
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I was watching an interesting article on string theroy on TV the other night and they said (not sure if it was theroy or fact) that, the speed of light and gravity work at the same speed. eg gravity pulls light towards the source but the light is traveling fast enough to counter gravity, thus leading to the light being stationary.

This got me thinking if this statement is true how come we can't see black holes? Surly we would be able to see some light if both work at the same speeds.

Clarification on whether the statement is true or not would be of help aswell.
Thx heaps.
 
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Consider an observer who hovers a small distance d above the event horizon of a black hole. The observer throws a ball straight up. If the initial speed of the ball (with respect to the observer) is less than the escape velocity due to gravity, then the ball comes back down. As the hovering distance d approaches zero, the escape velocity approaches the speed of light.
 
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LEIN_AD said:
I was watching an interesting article on string theroy on TV the other night and they said (not sure if it was theroy or fact) that, the speed of light and gravity work at the same speed. eg gravity pulls light towards the source but the light is traveling fast enough to counter gravity, thus leading to the light being stationary.

This got me thinking if this statement is true how come we can't see black holes? Surly we would be able to see some light if both work at the same speeds.

Clarification on whether the statement is true or not would be of help aswell.
Thx heaps.
If you can lay your hand on Kip Thorne's "Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy", read his version of the "Parable of the ants". It is a fun way to answer the question you asked.
 
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Wait I thought light does bend when it encounters gravity. Doesnt a black hole act as a lens bending the behind it.
 
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LEIN_AD said:
eg gravity pulls light towards the source but the light is traveling fast enough to counter gravity, thus leading to the light being stationary.
Doesn't sound right. Light can't be stationary. Can you clarify?

This got me thinking if this statement is true how come we can't see black holes? Surly we would be able to see some light if both work at the same speeds.
The speed of gravity really isn't the issue. The black hole will have a gravitational field around it that light will fall into and either escape or be trapped by. Like George was saying, the closer you are to the black hole (or any mass really) the higher the "escape velocity" is for something to get away from that black hole. Once inside the event horizon of the black hole, the escape velocity is greater than the speed of light, so not even light (the fastest thing there is) can escape. If no light escapes it, you can't see it directly. Now, light eminating from stuff falling into the black hole prior to the event horizon can be seen.
 
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EP said:
Wait I thought light does bend when it encounters gravity. Doesnt a black hole act as a lens bending the behind it.
Yes, but that's light that doesn't encounter the event horizon of the black hole. A light beam moving tangential to a black hole doesn't necessarily get drawn in, but does have its path deflected. A light beam going directly at a black hole is a goner.
 

1. What is a black hole?

A black hole is a region in space where the gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, including light, can escape it. This happens when a massive star collapses in on itself, creating a point of infinite density and zero volume called a singularity.

2. How do black holes affect light?

Black holes have such strong gravitational pull that they can bend the path of light, causing it to curve around the black hole. This phenomenon is known as gravitational lensing. Additionally, as light gets closer to the event horizon (the point of no return for a black hole), it gets stretched and redshifted, making it appear dimmer to an outside observer.

3. Are black holes just a theory or have they been proven to exist?

While the concept of black holes was first proposed by Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, they have since been observed and confirmed by scientists through various methods, such as detecting X-rays emitted from the accretion disk surrounding a black hole or observing the gravitational effects on surrounding objects.

4. Can anything escape from a black hole?

According to our current understanding, nothing can escape from a black hole once it has passed the event horizon. This includes matter, light, and even information. However, some theories suggest that there may be ways for information to escape from a black hole, but this is still a topic of debate among scientists.

5. Do black holes emit any light?

A black hole itself does not emit light, as it traps all light that enters its event horizon. However, the area surrounding a black hole, known as the accretion disk, can emit light as gas and other matter is pulled towards the black hole and heats up due to friction. This light can be detected and studied by scientists to learn more about black holes.

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