In order to eradicate all political corruption in government

[pentazoid]

... in order to make sure the political ideologies like individual liberty, freedom of speech and a plethora of other ideals of great statemens like the Founding fathers of the US are carried on from generations to come wi , would it just be best for the people if human-like machines ran the country who were programmed to strictly follow what was indoctrine in the US constitution and not have human leaders since humans are pronned to corruption of any kind, and robots were designed not to be corrupted

 

[mgb_phys]

http://blogs.sun.com/hinkmond/resource/images-2008/governator-01-large.jpg

 

[lisab]

:rofl:...he has a bear on his head...

 

[devil-fire]

... in order to make sure the political ideologies like individual liberty, freedom of speech and a plethora of other ideals of great statemens like the Founding fathers of the US are carried on from generations to come wi , would it just be best for the people if human-like machines ran the country who were programmed to strictly follow what was indoctrine in the US constitution and not have human leaders since humans are pronned to corruption of any kind, and robots were designed not to be corrupted

sounds a lot like giving control of the country over to computer engineers.

 

[rootX]

... in order to make sure the political ideologies like individual liberty, freedom of speech and a plethora of other ideals of great statemens like the Founding fathers of the US are carried on from generations to come wi , would it just be best for the people if human-like machines ran the country who were programmed to strictly follow what was indoctrine in the US constitution and not have human leaders since humans are pronned to corruption of any kind, and robots were designed not to be corrupted

So, it will be robots who decide how to deal with terrorism, financial crisis, or other threats?

 

[pentazoid]

So, it will be robots who decide how to deal with terrorism, financial crisis, or other threats?

If there were robots in the 18th century from the beginning of the formation of the country , we would not deal with problems like terrorism because they would be programmed to honor the founding fathers wishes of having a foreign policy based on non-interventionism and terrorism would not be such a big problem for the US .

 

[Vanadium 50]

Pentazoid,

First, there are no robots of the type you describe, so this whole question is moot. Second, circumstances change, and the idea that the 18th century conditions are appropriate today and for all time is immensely silly - quite possibly the silliest idea I have seen on the internet, and that's saying a lot.

Do you really want a world where slavery is legal? Where women cannot vote? Where there is no Bill of Rights?

 

[russ_watters]

There's an interesting question: would a robot programmed for logic point out the flaws in the Constitution to it's 18th century makers? And if so, what would happen then...?

[edit] Meh, maybe it's not that interesting - all roads lead back to the flawed premise.

 

[Astronuc]

If there were robots in the 18th century from the beginning of the formation of the country , we would not deal with problems like terrorism because they would be programmed to honor the founding fathers wishes of having a foreign policy based on non-interventionism and terrorism would not be such a big problem for the US .

Kind of ignored the fact that other states were interventionist, or is one speculating that robots would reside in all nations. Would the colonists have rebelled in 1775? Would the robots have maintained sovereignty of Great Britain over the colonies? Or would the Founding Fathers have rebelled against the robots?

The American Revolutionary War (1775–1783), also known as the American War of Independence,[1] began as a war between the Kingdom of Great Britain and thirteen united former British colonies on the North American continent, and ended in a global war between several European great powers. The war was the culmination of the political American Revolution, whereby the colonists rejected the right of the Parliament of Great Britain to govern them without representation. In 1775, Revolutionaries gained control of each of the thirteen colonial governments, set up the unifying Second Continental Congress, and formed a Continental Army. Petitions to the king to intervene with the parliament on their behalf resulted in Congress being declared traitors and the states in rebellion the following year. The Americans responded by formally declaring their independence as a new nation, the United States of America, claiming soverignty and rejecting any allegiance to the British monarchy. In 1777 the Continentals captured a British army, leading to France entering the war on the side of the Americans in early 1778, and evening the military strength with Britain. Spain and the Dutch Republic – French allies – also went to war with Britain over the next two years.
. . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_War


Monroe wouldn't have established the Monroe Doctrine?

The Monroe Doctrine is an American Doctrine which, on December 2, 1823, stated that European powers were no longer allowed to colonize in the Americas, or interfere with the affairs of the newly independent states of the Americas. The United States would not interfere with existing colonies or their dependencies in the Western Hemisphere. However, any attempt by a European nation to oppress or control any nation in the western hemisphere would be seen as an act of aggression and the United States would intervene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine


Would the robots have allowed the US to expand beyond it's borders?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_the_United_States

 

[Office_Shredder]

What would the robots actually do? Would they be able to come up with legislation?

 

[Astronuc]

What would the robots actually do? Would they be able to come up with legislation?

:rofl: Heh, heh. Who would program the robots?

Babbage was a bit late.

Charles Babbage, FRS (26 December 1791 London, England – 18 October 1871 Marylebone, London, England) was an English mathematician, philosopher, inventor and mechanical engineer who originated the concept of a programmable computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbage


The OP seems rather speculative, as in "What if . . . "

 

[Werg22]

This is why I hate science fiction. It makes people come up with absurd questions and has made them believe in all sorts of nonsense.

 

[Al68]

Pentazoid,

First, there are no robots of the type you describe, so this whole question is moot. Second, circumstances change, and the idea that the 18th century conditions are appropriate today and for all time is immensely silly - quite possibly the silliest idea I have seen on the internet, and that's saying a lot.

Do you really want a world where slavery is legal? Where women cannot vote? Where there is no Bill of Rights?

I think it's safe to assume that the OP meant that the robots would be programmed with the current US Constitution, not the original.

I think the bigger issue is the phrase "run the country". Since the constitution does not authorize the government to "run the country", how could a robot "run the country" and follow the constitution at the same time?

 

[binzing]

You're never going to "eradicate all political corruption in government" as there will always be those that are serving themselves or a particular group first. Its the sad truth, and to some extent, human nature.

 

[Vals509]

If you want to eradicate all political corruption in government, well i think that is going to be one REALLY difficult task, as in every level of office there is some kind of corruption big and small and so removing corruption is like removing the government. Whereas on your thought of replacing the government with so called human like machines, well i think that is also going to be really difficult and even imposible. Sounds shocking, but that's the way it is.

 

[Vanadium 50]

I think it's safe to assume that the OP meant that the robots would be programmed with the current US Constitution, not the original.

Except that he said, "If there were robots in the 18th century".

There is also the problem that for this to work one needs to believe that in the first 222 years of the constitution it needed to be amended on average every 8 or 9 years, but now it's perfect and will never need to be amended again.

 

[Al68]

Except that he said, "If there were robots in the 18th century".

My bad, I didn't read his later post.

There is also the problem that for this to work one needs to believe that in the first 222 years of the constitution it needed to be amended on average every 8 or 9 years, but now it's perfect and will never need to be amended again.

Why would one need to believe that? Unless the robots were incapable of integrating future changes to the constitution. But any robot that could enforce the constitution could do that, since the constitution itself provides the means for its amendment.

 

[Alfi]

This is why I hate science fiction. It makes people come up with absurd questions and has made them believe in all sorts of nonsense.

hehehe
This is why I love Sci-Fi. It let's people come up with absurd questions that have lead to wonderful inventions and great new theories.


As to programmed overseers; who programs the programmers?