Prove Graph is Function: Logic & Alternatives

In summary, the conversation discusses different methods for proving a graph is a function, with the main focus on using logic and equations. The use of the horizontal line test is mentioned but it is noted that it may not always be applicable. The conversation also delves into the concept of defining y as a function of x and the importance of considering the domain. It is mentioned that re-arranging equations may not always be possible or practical when trying to show that an equation is a function. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need to carefully analyze an equation and its properties to determine if it is a function.
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I'm interested in getting a better answer to showing/proving a graph is a function than the usual "horizontal line test" response. Is the use of logic the best tool for proving a function? Because that line test method is basically that.
Also, translating the function by illustrating it on the x-y plane isn't always so simple without a calculator, so other methods may be necessary.
 
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Depends on what you want to do. Are you trying to show a graph is representative of a function (in which case you don't need to worry about trying to draw it) or are you trying to show that an equation of the form f(x,y) = 0 i.e. an equation with x's and y's can be written so that y is a function of x?
 
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I'm trying to show the second that you mentioned :smile:

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or are you trying to show that an equation of the form f(x,y) = 0 i.e. an equation with x's and y's can be written so that y is a function of x?
 
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What you really need to show is:

Given a value of x, there is only one possible value of y(x). Example for each:

x2 + y2 = 1

If x = [itex] \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} [/itex] then y can be plus or minus [itex] \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/itex] so this does not give a function (and drawing the circle we see this is obvious). More generally, if y2 = 1-x2 and w2 = 1-x2 for the same value of x, then y2 = w2 so y= +/- w and in general y and w do not have to be equal

If on the other hand we have 2y-x-1 = 0 Then if 2y-x-1 = 0 and 2w-x-1 = 0 for a set value of x, then 2y=x+1=2w and we can see y=w is necessary. Hence for each value of x there is only a single value of y that satisfies this, and y can be defined as a function of x.

There's also another possible concern about the domain. y is a function of x over the real numbers by definition also means for each x, there exists a possible value of y. If your possible function was [itex]y = \sqrt{1-x^2}[/itex] (taking only positive values of square root) unlike in the circle case this satisfies the condition for each x there is at most one value of y. But by definition, this is not a function over the real numbers because outside of the interval [-1,1] y is not defined. Instead it's only a function over that interval. Generally this isn't the condition you're worried about though (since what the domain of the function is probably isn't the question at hand)
 
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So it is necessary to make the y variable of an equation f(x,y) the subject so as to know if it is the form [tex]y^2=y(x)[/tex] or maybe other operative functions that result in more than one value such as [tex]sin(y)=y(x)[/tex] or others that exist (which I wouldn't know about).
Is it possible to show the equation is a function or not without re-arranging the equation? Possibly because re-arrangement would be too difficult or impossible with elementary functions.
 

1. How do you prove that a graph is a function?

To prove that a graph is a function, you must use the vertical line test. This means that for every input value, there can only be one corresponding output value. If a vertical line passes through the graph at more than one point, then it is not a function.

2. Can a graph be both a function and a relation?

Yes, a graph can be both a function and a relation. A function is a specific type of relation where each input value has only one output value. A relation, on the other hand, is simply a set of ordered pairs. Therefore, a graph can be a function if each input has only one output, but it can also be a relation if it has more than one output for each input.

3. What are some alternative methods to prove that a graph is a function?

Aside from using the vertical line test, there are other methods to prove that a graph is a function. One alternative is the horizontal line test, which involves drawing horizontal lines through the graph and checking if it intersects the graph at more than one point. Another method is to use the mapping notation and check if each input is paired with only one output.

4. Can a graph be a function if it has repeating inputs?

No, a graph cannot be a function if it has repeating inputs. This breaks the rule that each input must have only one output. However, it is possible for a graph to have repeating outputs.

5. Are there any exceptions to the rules for proving a graph is a function?

Yes, there are a few exceptions to the rules for proving a graph is a function. One exception is vertical lines, as they can pass through a graph at more than one point but still represent a function. Another exception is circles, which can pass the vertical line test but not the horizontal line test. Additionally, some graphs may require more advanced mathematical concepts, such as calculus, to prove that they are functions.

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