Center of gravity in wrong place?

In summary, the center of gravity of an object is the point at which all its gravitational effects appear to be concentrated. However, this may differ depending on who is observing and whether or not they are taking into account the gravitational attraction of other objects. The center of gravity of the Earth and the moon combined is not at the center of the Earth, and in some systems like binary stars, the center of gravity may be located between the two objects.
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Textbooks all say that the center of gravity of an object is the point at which all it's gravitaional effects appear to be concentrated. But that seems to depend on who's checking.

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Imagine a small mass M some distance from the Earth. That mass is attracted simultaneously by all the particles that make up the Earth. At first blush you would think that since the Earth is symetrical, they would average out and the center of gravity is at the geometric center. But that cannot be right.

The gravitaional attraction between M and each particle is an inverse square law. That means that particles that are symmetrically each side of the Earth's center do not average to the center. So as far as M sees it, the center of gravity must be closer to m than the center point, right?

I would have thought this would be a major effect on how M would orbit the Earth. Seems to me that the mass M would see the CG as a ring. The CG would follow M around a circular path around the center point.

What am I missing?
 

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"t first blush you would think that since the Earth is symetrical, they would average out and the center of gravity is at the geometric center. "Newton proved that is the case. The proof is often located in Calculus or University Physics texts. Check it out.
 
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JohnPage said:
Imagine a small mass M some distance from the Earth. That mass is attracted simultaneously by all the particles that make up the Earth. At first blush you would think that since the Earth is symetrical, they would average out and the center of gravity is at the geometric center. But that cannot be right.

Correct. But that is talking about something different from the center of gravity of the Earth on its own. You can choose to ignore the gravitational attraction of everything else in the universe (including the moon) or to include it, and it shouldn't be a surprise that the two situations are different.

The moon and Earth both orbit around their combined center of gravity position, whcih is not at the center of the earth.

If the moon was the same size as the Earth the CG of the combined bodies would be half way between the line joining them, and both orbits would follow the same curve around that point. There are system like that which can be observed, for example binary stars.
 

1. What is the center of gravity and why is it important?

The center of gravity is the point at which the entire weight of an object can be considered to be concentrated. It is important because it affects an object's stability, balance, and movement.

2. How does having the center of gravity in the wrong place affect an object?

If the center of gravity is in the wrong place, it can cause an object to be unstable and more prone to tipping over. It can also make it more difficult to control the object's movement.

3. What factors can cause the center of gravity to be in the wrong place?

The center of gravity can be affected by the shape, size, and weight distribution of an object. Changes in these factors can shift the center of gravity to a different location.

4. How can we determine the center of gravity for an object?

The center of gravity can be determined by balancing the object on a pivot point and finding the point at which it stays balanced. It can also be calculated by finding the average distribution of weight across an object.

5. Can the center of gravity be changed or corrected?

In some cases, the center of gravity can be adjusted by changing the weight distribution of an object. For example, adding weight to one side can shift the center of gravity. However, in many cases, the center of gravity is fixed and cannot be changed.

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