Solving Confusion about Hans Ohanian's One-Dimensional Gas Example

In summary, the conversation discusses the validity of Einstein's original proofs of E=mc2. The main focus is on special relativity and the stress-energy tensor, which is essential in proving that the energy-momentum vector is conserved and a four-vector in the case of an isolated system. The historical paper by Hans Ohanian is referenced, which analyzes a one-dimensional gas without using the stress-energy tensor and finds that the kinetic energy behaves differently when boosted in the x direction compared to the y or z direction. This is also confirmed by using the stress-energy tensor. Ohanian's explanation for this is that the tension in the container of the gas cancels out the effect of the gas's pressure, resulting in the usual isotropic behavior of
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This is about Hans Ohanian, "Einstein's E = mc2 mistakes," http://arxiv.org/abs/0805.1400 , a historical paper that discusses whether Einstein's original proofs of E=mc2 were really valid.

My general understanding of the topic is as follows. I'm just discussing SR, not GR. What's really foundational is that the stress-energy tensor has zero divergence. Using this fact, along with Gauss's theorem, you can prove that the energy-momentum vector [itex]p^\mu=\int_S T^{\mu0} d^3(\text{vol})[/itex] is (a) conserved and (b) a four-vector, in the case of an isolated system. Rindler, Introduction to Special Relativity (1982 edition), has proofs in section 50. Basically you extend the three-surface S in the time dimension to make a four-volume R bounded by timelike surfaces A (earlier) and B (later). In the case where A and B are both surfaces of simultaneity for the same frame of reference, you get a proof of conservation. By allowing B to be a surface of simultaneity for some *other* observer, you get a proof that p transforms like a four-vector. The proof depends on the fact that it's an isolated system, because the three-volume S is assumed to be big enough so that the stress-energy tensor vanishes outside S. Only by making this assumption can we use Gauss's theorem to equate the flux of energy-momentum through A to minus the flux through B.

Ohanian's example (p. 4) is the following. You let the matter contained in S be a set of identical particles, half of which move in the +x direction with speed u and half of which move with that speed in the -x direction. Basically it's a one-dimensional gas. Ohanian analyzes this without the stress-energy tensor (he's discussing a paper that predates the stress-energy tensor), just by using combination of velocities. He finds that when you start in the gas's rest frame, then apply a boost v, the low-velocity behavior of the kinetic energy is different depending on whether v is applied in the x direction or the y or z direction. In the x direction you get an excess mass of [itex]2mu^2[/itex], where m is the total mass of all the particles. In the y or z direction you get what you'd expect.

I worked this out using the stress-energy tensor and got the same result. In the rest frame, the stress-energy tensor has the form [itex]\operatorname{diag}(\rho,P,0,0)[/itex], where P is the pressure. When you boost in the x direction, [itex]\rho[/itex] goes to [itex]\gamma^2(\rho+v^2P)[/itex]. The volume has been decreased by a factor of gamma, so integrating this over the volume kills off one of the factors of gamma. The quadratic term in the energy is then [itex](1/2)(\rho+2P)Vv^2[/itex] (expressed in terms of the volume V in the c.m. frame). To lowest order in u, [itex]P=mu^2/V[/itex], so this gives the same result as Ohanian's for the extra inertia in the x direction. When you instead boost the stress-energy tensor in the y or z direction, you don't pick up the extra term, since the yy and zz parts of the stress-energy are zero.

The result of all this is that the kinetic energy is not isotropic, even to leading order in v, which means that the total energy-momentum p isn't transforming like a four-vector.

Ohanian says that the resolution of the problem is that you have to include the container of the gas in the picture. The container is under tension (negative pressure), so when you include that tension in the stress-energy tensor, it just cancels out the effect of the gas's pressure, and you recover the usual isotropic behavior of kinetic energy. I've seen other examples in which it seems clear that this type of effect is necessary and sufficient to fix the problem, so that p transforms as a four-vector. (A nice one involving a capacitor is http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0609144 .)

Here's what's confusing me about this example. The question is whether, in Ohanian's example, the tension in the container is necessary and sufficient to fix the problem. Let's say the container simply doesn't exist. Then we have two interpenetrating clouds of particles, which will fly off in the +x and -x directions. Nevertheless it seems that by making S big enough, we could arrange things so that R would still have zero flux through its "sides" (everything except the surfaces A and B). The proof using Gauss's theorem would then hold, and the energy-momentum p should transform as a four-vector. The only difference this makes in my analysis using the stress-energy tensor is that if you're not in the c.m. frame, the volumes of the two interpenetrating clouds are no longer equal to the volume of the nonexistent container. The way I've attempted to account for this is as follows. Let V be the volume of either cloud in the c.m. frame. Then under a boost v in the x direction, they have volumes [itex]V_+'[/itex] and [itex]V_-'[/itex], where

[tex]\frac{V_+'}{V}=\frac{\gamma_u}{\gamma_{u\parallel v}}=1-\frac{1}{2}v^2-uv+u^2v^2+\ldots[/tex]

and [itex]V_-'[/itex] works the same way except for the sign of u. So after a boost v we have

[tex]E' = \frac{1}{2}\gamma_v^2(\rho+v^2P)V_+'+\frac{1}{2}\gamma_v^2(\rho+v^2P)V_-'[/tex]

Letting [itex]E=\rho V[/itex] be the total energy in the original c.m. frame, we have

[tex]\frac{E'}{E} = 1+\frac{1}{2}\left(1+4u^2+\ldots\right)v^2+O(v^4),[/tex]

which doesn't seem right. The two clouds have energy-momentum vectors in the c.m. frame that are (E/2,+...) and (E/2,-...), for a total of (E,0). This is just the sum of two four-vectors, so it should also transform as a four-vector, and therefore we should have

[tex]\frac{E'}{E} = 1+\frac{1}{2}v^2+O(v^4),[/tex]

regardless of the internal stresses. I stared at the [itex]4u^2[/itex] for a really long time, willing it to be a 2-2 rather than a 2+2...but it just wouldn't cooperate.

Can anyone help me figure out what I've done wrong here? Thanks in advance!
 
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I can offer some insights into this issue. It seems that the problem lies in the assumption that the stress-energy tensor is zero outside of the volume S. In reality, this assumption is not always true and can lead to incorrect results. In the case of the interpenetrating clouds of particles, the stress-energy tensor would not be zero outside of the volume S, as there would be some interaction between the particles and their surroundings.

In order to accurately calculate the energy-momentum vector, we must take into account all sources of energy and momentum, including external forces and stresses. In the case of the container and the gas particles, the tension in the container would indeed cancel out the effect of the gas's pressure, resulting in the correct transformation of the energy-momentum vector.

Therefore, it is important to consider all factors and not make assumptions about the stress-energy tensor being zero outside of a given volume. This is a lesson that Einstein himself learned and corrected in his later work on general relativity. Thank you for bringing this interesting issue to our attention and highlighting the importance of considering all factors in our calculations.
 

1. What is Hans Ohanian's One-Dimensional Gas Example?

Hans Ohanian's One-Dimensional Gas Example is a thought experiment used in physics to demonstrate the principles of thermodynamics and statistical mechanics. It involves a long, thin tube filled with particles that can only move in one dimension, with one end of the tube being hotter than the other.

2. How does the One-Dimensional Gas Example help in understanding thermodynamics?

The One-Dimensional Gas Example helps in understanding thermodynamics by illustrating the concepts of energy transfer, entropy, and equilibrium. It shows how heat flows from a hotter region to a colder one, and how the particles in the gas system reach a state of maximum disorder (highest entropy) when they are in thermal equilibrium.

3. What is the significance of the One-Dimensional Gas Example in statistical mechanics?

The One-Dimensional Gas Example is significant in statistical mechanics because it demonstrates the relationship between macroscopic properties (such as temperature and pressure) and microscopic behavior (such as the motion of individual particles). It also helps in understanding how the laws of thermodynamics emerge from the behavior of a large number of particles.

4. How does the One-Dimensional Gas Example challenge traditional assumptions about gases?

The One-Dimensional Gas Example challenges traditional assumptions about gases by showing that the behavior of particles in a one-dimensional system can be significantly different from that of a three-dimensional system. It also highlights the limitations of macroscopic models and the importance of considering microscopic behavior in understanding the properties of gases.

5. What are some real-world applications of the One-Dimensional Gas Example?

The One-Dimensional Gas Example has many real-world applications in fields such as engineering, chemistry, and materials science. It can help in designing more efficient heat exchangers, understanding the behavior of gases in nanoscale systems, and predicting the properties of materials under extreme conditions. It is also used in the development of new technologies, such as thermoelectric devices and microfluidic systems.

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