Blood Transfusion: Calculating Height of Bag

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In summary: As the blood goes into the patient, a vacuum would form in the bottle and the flow would stop. What you could do is put a needle through the top of the bottle, insert it into the blood, and tape it in place. This would allow air to enter the bottle and replace the volume of blood leaving the bottle.In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the necessary height for a blood transfusion using a tube, flexible bag, and needle. The flow rate, density, and viscosity of the blood are given, as well as the blood pressure in the vein. The conversation also considers the use of an inverted glass bottle for the transfusion and potential complications with the vacuum formation. The calculation for the necessary height is
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Hi, i don't know how to do this question - some help would be appreciated.

Q: A patient is to be given a blood transfusion. The blood is to flow through a tube from a raised flexible bag to a needle inserted in the vein. The inside diameter of the 40mm-long needle is 0.40mm and the required flow rate is 4.0*10^-6 m^-3 of blood per minute. [density of blood = 1.06*10^3 kg.m^-3], [Viscosity (eta) of blood = 2.084*10^-3 Pa.s]

a) How high should the bag be placed above the needle? Assume the blood pressure in the vein is 2.4 kPa above atmospheric pressure. :confused:

b)What would happen if the blood were to be transfused from an inverted glass bottle rather than a flexible bag?

Could some please show me how to do part a)? :uhh:

Thanks!
 
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ussrasu said:
Hi, i don't know how to do this question - some help would be appreciated.

Q: A patient is to be given a blood transfusion. The blood is to flow through a tube from a raised flexible bag to a needle inserted in the vein. The inside diameter of the 40mm-long needle is 0.40mm and the required flow rate is 4.0*10^-6 m^-3 of blood per minute. [density of blood = 1.06*10^3 kg.m^-3], [Viscosity (eta) of blood = 2.084*10^-3 Pa.s]

a) How high should the bag be placed above the needle? Assume the blood pressure in the vein is 2.4 kPa above atmospheric pressure. :confused:
Think of the blood as a column above the needle into the vein. The diameter of the needle is 0.40 mm= 0.00040 m so the area is [tex]\pi (0.00040)^2[/tex]square m. If the bag is x m above the needle then that column has volume [tex]\pi (0.00040)^2 x m^3[/tex]. You are told the density of blood so you can calculate the weight of that volume of blood.
Divide by the area calculated above to find the pressure at the needle.
(I don't see why "flow rate" or "viscosity" are needed since you are told to "assume blood pressure in the vein is 2.4 kPa above atmospheric pressure.)

b)What would happen if the blood were to be transfused from an inverted glass bottle rather than a flexible bag?

With a flexible bag, the atmosphere can press on the blood itself. That's why, in (a), you only had to allow for the pressure "above atmospheric pressure". If you use a glass bottle, the atmosphere presses against the rigid bottle, not the blood. Now, you would have to make the height enough to equal the entire pressure: atmospheric pressure and the additional 2.4 kPa.
 
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how does this find the height? I thought this involved Poisieulles Equation to find L?
 
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I don't think you need Poisieulles' equation for this- that applies to flow through a vessel and here you are only asked what the height must be to get the given pressure.
I told you how to find the height before. Think of the tube as a cylinder of blood above the needle as a cylinder having base area the same as the needle opening (you could calculate it from the data given but let's just call it "A") and height h (meters). The volume is Ah and so the weight of the blood is "mass times acc due to gravity times volume"= (1.06*10^3 kg/m3)(9.81 m/s2)(Ah). The pressure is that downward force divided by the the area, A: (1.06*10^3)(9.81)h Newtons/m2. Convert that to "kiloPascals", set it equal to 2.4 and solve for h.

(Oh, I just checked: 1 Pascal is 1 N/m2 so to convert to kPa just divide by 1000: in other words, just drop that "10^3".)
 
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I know it will be nearly negligible, but we have ignored the effects of friction here. I'm not sure if you are in introductory fluid flow right now, or if you have covered head losses and the like.

To calculate the additional height you will need to raise the bag, find the Reynolds number. I will assume that the flow is laminar since flow is so small and diameter is small as well. Now, if I remember correctly, friction factor for laminar flow through circular pipes is f=64/Re. Now, apply your head loss equation to obtain an additional height required. Add that on to the height found earlier.

Also, the question does ask for a height given a required flow, so you will need to take into consideration frictional losses.
 
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Hi;
Just a quick addendum to Halls' response to b): You would have to vent the bottle to prevent it from vacuum-locking (I know that's not the right term, but I don't know what else to call it).
 

1. How is the height of the blood transfusion bag calculated?

The height of a blood transfusion bag is calculated using the formula: Height = (Volume/Radius^2) * (4/3 * Pi). The volume of the bag is determined by the amount of blood needed for the patient, and the radius is the diameter of the bag divided by 2.

2. Why is it important to calculate the height of the blood transfusion bag?

Calculating the height of the blood transfusion bag is important because it ensures that the blood will flow into the patient at the correct rate. If the height is not calculated properly, it can result in either too much or too little blood being transfused, which can have serious consequences for the patient's health.

3. What factors can affect the height calculation of the blood transfusion bag?

The factors that can affect the height calculation of the blood transfusion bag include the patient's weight, the type of blood being transfused, the patient's blood pressure, and the rate of blood flow needed. It is important to take all of these factors into consideration when calculating the height of the bag.

4. Are there any potential risks associated with incorrect height calculations of the blood transfusion bag?

Yes, there are potential risks associated with incorrect height calculations of the blood transfusion bag. If too much blood is transfused, it can lead to circulatory overload, which can cause heart failure. If too little blood is transfused, it can result in inadequate oxygen delivery to the body's tissues and organs.

5. Can an automated machine be used to calculate the height of the blood transfusion bag?

Yes, there are automated machines that can calculate the height of the blood transfusion bag. These machines use the patient's weight, blood pressure, and other factors to determine the appropriate height for the bag. However, it is important for healthcare professionals to double check the calculations to ensure accuracy and avoid any potential risks.

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