Limits of Trig Functions: Evaluating x→0

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In summary, Vietdao tried solving the limit using both L'Hospital's rule and an expansion series, but got the same answer as when he tried using just L'Hospital's rule.
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evaluate :
[tex] \lim_{x\longrightarrow 0 } \frac{cos(sin\ x) \ - \ cos \ x }{x^4} [/tex]What I've tried

I didnt go for L'Hopitals rule seeing the power of the denominator .
I tried working this one by using the expansion series of sin and cos -:

[tex]

lim= 1-\frac{sin^2x}{2!} + \frac{sin^4x}{4!} \cdots - 1 + \frac{x^2}{2!}- \frac{x^4}{4!} \cdots [/tex]

Dividing by x^4

[tex] = \frac{sin^2x}{x^2}. \frac{-1}{2x^2}+\frac{sin^4x}{24x^4}+\frac{x^2}{2x^4}-\frac{1}{24} [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{1}{2x^2} [/tex]

which gives ∞ as the answer..
Plz suggest a way to work this out
thx
 
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Apply l'Hospital's rule to the given limit sufficiently many times and you will get it.
 
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Dividing by x^4

[tex] = \frac{sin^2x}{x^2}. \frac{-1}{2x^2}+\frac{sin^4x}{24x^4}+\frac{x^2}{2x^4}-\frac{1}{24} [/tex]

[tex] = \frac{1}{2x^2} [/tex]

which gives ∞ as the answer..
Plz suggest a way to work this out
thx

The last line is wrong. It boils down to:

[tex]- \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{x ^ 4} + \frac{1}{x ^ 2}[/tex], which is: [tex]\infty - \infty[/tex], not just ∞ as you pointed out, one of your signs is wrong.

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L'Hopitals' rule is one way, and yours is another:

We have for x near 0:

Since, the denominator is x4, all power of x higher than 4 will be dropped.

[tex]\cos (\sin (x)) \approx 1 - \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{2} + \frac{\sin ^ 4 x}{4!} \approx 1 - \frac{1}{2} \left( x - \frac{x ^ 3}{6} \right) ^ 2 + \frac{x ^ 4}{24} \approx 1 - \frac{1}{2} \left( x ^ 2 - \frac{1}{3} x ^ 4 \right) + \frac{x ^ 4}{24}[/tex]

[tex]\cos (x) \approx 1 - \frac{x ^ 2}{2} + \frac{x ^ 4}{24}[/tex]

Now, plug all to your expression, and the answer shouldn't be far off.
Can you go from here? :)
 
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Thx for the help, Vietdao, but could you please explain how you did the followin transformation-:
VietDao29 said:
[tex] 1 - \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{2} + \frac{\sin ^ 4 x}{4!} \approx 1 - \frac{1}{2} \left( x - \frac{x ^ 3}{6} \right) ^ 2 + \frac{x ^ 4}{24}[/tex]
VietDao29 said:
[tex]- \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{x ^ 4} + \frac{1}{x ^ 2} [/tex]
Isnt the above equal to 0 ? (using (sinx/x)=1), whereas the limit computed earlier by the expansion you have listed is 1/6. why don't they match ?

Thx again
 
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Thx for the help, Vietdao, but could you please explain how you did the followin transformation-:

Yes, of course. Since the denominator is x4, so any powers of x that are higher than 4 in the numerator when divided by the denominator (i.e, x4) will tend to 0 as x tend to 0. Right? So they do not affect the final result. So what we should do is to keep all the x's whose power are less than or equal to 4.

For x near 0, we have:

[tex]\sin x = x - \frac{x ^ 3}{3!} + \frac{x ^ 5}{5!} - ...[/tex]

[tex]\cos x = 1 - \frac{x ^ 2}{2} + \frac{x ^ 4}{4!} - ...[/tex]

When x tends to 0, sin(x) also tends to 0, so, we have:

[tex]\cos (\sin x) = 1 - \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{2} + \frac{\sin ^ 4 x}{4!} - \frac{\sin ^ 6 x}{6!} ...[/tex]

Since the denominator is in x, we have to make one more change to sin(x), i.e convert them into x.

[tex]\cos (\sin x) = 1 - \frac{\left( x - \frac{x ^ 3}{3!} + \frac{x ^ 5}{5!} - ... \right) ^ 2}{2} + \frac{\left( x - \frac{x ^ 3}{3!} + \frac{x ^ 5}{5!} - ... \right) ^ 4}{4!} - \frac{\left( x - \frac{x ^ 3}{3!} + \frac{x ^ 5}{5!} - ... \right) ^ 6}{6!} + ...[/tex]

Now, the trick is to drop all the powers of x that is higher than 4, the ones that are in red.

[tex]... = 1 - \frac{ x ^ 2 - \textcolor{red}{\frac{x ^ 6}{(3!) ^ 2} + \frac{x ^ {10}}{(5!) ^ 2} - ...} - \frac{x ^ 4}{3} + \textcolor{red}{ \frac{x ^ 6}{60} + ... } }{2} + \frac{x ^ 4 + \textcolor{red}{ ...} }{4!} - \textcolor{red}{\frac{x ^ 6 + ...}{6!}}[/tex]

After dropping all the unnecessary terms, we have:

[tex]... \approx 1 - \frac{1}{2} \left( x ^ 2 - \frac{1}{3} x ^ 4 \right) + \frac{x ^ 4}{24}[/tex]

Do the same to cos(x), we have:

[tex]\cos x = 1 - \frac{x ^ 2}{2} + \frac{x ^ 4}{4!} - \textcolor{red}{ \frac{x ^ 6}{6!} + ...} \approx 1 - \frac{x ^ 2}{2} + \frac{x ^ 4}{4!}[/tex]
Isnt the above equal to 0 ? (using (sinx/x)=1), whereas the limit computed earlier by the expansion you have listed is 1/6. why don't they match ?

Thx again

Nope, when x tends to 0, sin(x) / x will tend to 1, that does not mean that it's 1.

Factor out 1 / x2, we have:
[tex]\frac{1}{x ^ 2} \left( \frac{\sin ^ 2 x}{x ^ 2} - 1 \right)[/tex]

Now, as x -> 0, the 1 / x2 will tend to infinity, whereas, sin2(x)/x2 will tend to 1. Note that, it only tends to 1, it's not equal to 1. So actually, it's the form [tex]0 \times \infty[/tex]

Is everything clear now? :)
 
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VietDao29 said:
Is everything clear now? :)

Yeah, that was perfect explanation, even better than what my professor's teach on board :)
 

1. What is a limit in trigonometry?

A limit in trigonometry is a value that a function approaches as the input (x-value) of the function gets closer and closer to a specific value, in this case, 0.

2. How do you evaluate a limit of a trigonometric function as x approaches 0?

To evaluate a limit of a trigonometric function as x approaches 0, you can simply substitute 0 for the variable x in the function and simplify the resulting expression.

3. What is the significance of evaluating limits of trigonometric functions as x approaches 0?

Evaluating limits of trigonometric functions as x approaches 0 helps us understand the behavior of the function near the value of 0. It also allows us to find the exact value of the limit, which can be useful in solving other problems involving the function.

4. Can a limit of a trigonometric function as x approaches 0 be undefined?

Yes, a limit of a trigonometric function as x approaches 0 can be undefined if the function is discontinuous or if there is a vertical asymptote at x=0. In such cases, the function does not approach a single value as x gets closer to 0.

5. How can you use the graph of a trigonometric function to evaluate its limit as x approaches 0?

You can use the graph of a trigonometric function to evaluate its limit as x approaches 0 by observing the behavior of the function near x=0. If the graph approaches a single value as x gets closer to 0, then that value is the limit of the function. If the graph has a gap or a vertical asymptote at x=0, then the limit is undefined.

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