Relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra

In summary: Lie algebra of the theory. This means that the algebra can be separated into left- and right-handed versions, and that the two versions commute. However, when we try to apply the theory to a real world situation, we often find that the generators of the Lie algebra are not continuous. This is because particles in the real world have mass, and this affects the way they interact with each other.
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If the generators of the Lorentz spinor transformation can be expressed in terms of the gamma matrices (which can be used ot build a Clifford algebra), why can't the generators of the Lorentz vector transformation similarly be expressed in terms of the gamma matrices? And why does there exists this relationship between the Clifford algebra and the Lorentz algebra in the first place?
 
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This is an issue of representations of a group. I'm afraid I don't know of any simple answer to the question. The essentials are these:

1. The Lorentz group is a Lie group (not compact, however): SO(3,1).
2. The Lie algebra of this group has an isomorphism: so(3,1) ~= sl(2,C)
4. The Dirac spinors are actually not an irreducible representation.
5. The vector representation is simply so(3,1).

It is probably just necessary to go and find a book on representation theory of Lie algebras and read it.
 
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Lorentz transformations form a group. Dirac algebra (special case of Clifford algebras) is a specific representation of this group. Irreducible representations of Lorentz group are enumerated with a pair of half-integer numbers u and v; a (u,v) representation has the dimension (2u+1)*(2v+1). (0,0) is scalar. (0,1/2) and (1/2,0) are representations that describe transformations of 2d Weyl spinors. Dirac algebra is non-irreducible (0,1/2) x (1/2,0) (4d). Vector algebra is irreducible (1/2,1/2) (also 4d).

The Dirac algebra is reducible, which means that it describes two non-interacting fields (left-handed and right-handed 2d spinors) which transform independently of each other under boosts and rotations. However, Dirac equation contains a mass term which couples left-handed with right-handed and vice versa. Therefore we're forced to deal with 4-component spinors.

Does this help?
 
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Yeah, but actually in the meantime I've been looking at this question a bit more closely. It seems the gamma matrices can be used to build representations of the spin(N) algebra, and this is what dirac spinors transform under. But as you say, The Dirac spinor comprises of two Weyl spinors (which might get mixed up by a mass term), each of which transforms in the (0,1/2) and (1/2,0) reps of the Lorentz group. Spin(N) is the double cover of SO(N), so it does 2 copies of the Lorentz transformation basically. And because spinors can be complex, a two component spinor has 4 dofs, which is the correct amount for it to be acted on by an SO(4). But now we have the question - how can we call the theory Lorentz invariant if the things which it is built from, dirac spinors, don't transform under the lorentz group but instead its double cover? I think the answer is that there is nothing stopping us from separating out the left and right handed 2 spinors even when there is a mass term - such a theory now would be invariant under Lorentz since its constructed from 2 spinors. But we run into problems with gauge invraiance (which eventually leads to higgs mechanism), and also for many purposes I think its easier to speak about 4 components spinors and say they transform under Lorentz when what you strictly mean is that the 2 spinors it is comprised of each transforms under different copies of the Lorentz group.
 
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Err, not quite. The mass term really does mess up the separate transforms. The reason double covers don't make any difference is that they still share the same Lie algebra, i.e. infinitesimal transforms. The global differences manifest as topological effects, e.g. the existence of spin-1/2 particles.
 
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I think you misunderstand the meaning of double cover. Spin(4) and SO(4) groups have identical algebras which means that their generators commute in the same way. However, the continuous mapping between the two would be 2-to-1. A classic example is SU(2) vs SO(3).

The theory is Lorentz invariant because we can do a series of infinitesimal boosts or rotations and transform all dirac spinors using corresponding elements of (0,1/2)x(1,2,0) rep and the Lagrangian will be preserved. If you rotate the whole thing 360 degrees around any axis, you will discover that all your spinors change sign instead of going back to where you started. That's because the spacetime symmetry group is SO(3,1) and the group of Dirac spinors is Spin(3,1) which is a double cover of SO(3,1), so by the time you got back to 1 in SO(3,1), your path takes you to an element -1 of Spin(3,1). But that is irrelevant since that sign does not affect the Lagrangian directly anyway.

Mass term only matters when we're dealing with propagation.
 
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So the definition of Lorentz invariance is broader than just invariance under the action of a rep of the Lorentz group - really it means invariance under a rep of any group whose generators obey the Lorentz algebra?
 
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Basically, yes.

The definition of Lorentz invariance is that physics laws are the same in all inertial reference frames. For that to be true, it is sufficient (but not necessary) for the Lagrangian density of the field to be invariant under boosts and rotations. Since any (proper) Lorentz transformation can be constructed out of infinitesimal boosts and rotations, it is sufficient and necessary for the Lagrangian density to be invariant under same. In order to achieve that, it is not necessary for internal variables such as spinors to transform under a rep of the Lorentz group. Any group that has the right Lie algebra will do.
 
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Ah it all makes sense now. Thank you hamster and genneth!
 
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What do you have in mind when you say it is sufficient but not necessary for the Lagrangian density to be invariant under boosts and rotations for the same laws of physics to appear in different inertial frames? I thought it was both necessary and sufficient. Are you thinking about physics that cannot be derived from an action principle but which are nevertheless Lorentz invariant?
 
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RedX said:
What do you have in mind when you say it is sufficient but not necessary for the Lagrangian density to be invariant under boosts and rotations for the same laws of physics to appear in different inertial frames? I thought it was both necessary and sufficient. Are you thinking about physics that cannot be derived from an action principle but which are nevertheless Lorentz invariant?

I was merely being pedantic. :) QFT lagrangians are typically lorentz scalars. But two lagrangians that differ by a constant (or more generally, by a total derivative) correspond to the same physics. So, you could have some kind of weird transformation law that changes the lagrangian but preserves physics.
 
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hamster143 said:
I was merely being pedantic. :) QFT lagrangians are typically lorentz scalars. But two lagrangians that differ by a constant (or more generally, by a total derivative) correspond to the same physics. So, you could have some kind of weird transformation law that changes the lagrangian but preserves physics.

I think you're selling yourself short there... :-p In general, changes to the Lagrangian by a total derivative are considered harmless, except when the boundary effects are important. Usually, we postulate that the fields fall to zero at infinity, but things like gauge potentials don't have to, even if the physical fields like E and B do.

More generally though, a symmetry of a quantum system is some operator which commutes with the Hamiltonian. It is often insinuated in textbooks that this is equivalent to the Lagrangian remaining invariant under the desired transform. Apart from the total derivative issue above, there is another one, more subtle. The connection between the quantum Hamiltonian, which is an operator, and the Lagrangian, which is classical, is via the path integral. The path integral involves a measure over the space of paths, and the measure may not be preserved under the transform, even if the Lagrangian is. These lead to the so-called (and badly called) anomalies.
 

1. What is the Clifford algebra?

The Clifford algebra, also known as geometric algebra, is a mathematical structure that extends the properties of vectors in three-dimensional space to higher dimensions. It is based on the work of mathematician William Kingdon Clifford and provides a powerful framework for representing and manipulating geometric objects in a unified manner.

2. How is the Clifford algebra related to the Lorentz algebra?

The Lorentz algebra is a special case of the Clifford algebra, specifically the algebra generated by the gamma matrices used in the Dirac equation in the theory of relativity. In other words, the Lorentz algebra is a subset of the Clifford algebra, and the latter provides a more general framework for understanding the former.

3. What are the applications of the relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra?

The relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra has various applications in physics, particularly in the fields of quantum mechanics and general relativity. It is used to describe spinors, which are fundamental objects in quantum field theory, and also plays a crucial role in the geometric formulation of general relativity.

4. Are there any practical implications of the relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra?

Yes, there are practical implications of the relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra. For example, the use of the Clifford algebra in quantum mechanics allows for a more efficient and elegant representation of physical systems, leading to simplified calculations and improved understanding of fundamental concepts.

5. How can I learn more about the relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra?

There are various resources available for learning about the relation between Clifford algebra and Lorentz algebra, including books, online lectures, and research papers. It is recommended to have a strong foundation in linear algebra and abstract algebra before delving into this topic. Additionally, seeking guidance from a mentor or attending seminars and workshops can also aid in understanding this complex subject.

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