How does a wave move along a rope?

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a wave moving to the right and determining the position of point P. The group discusses whether each point on the wave maintains its position in the positive x direction or only the y component changes. There is confusion about whether point P is a physical point on the rope or an imaginary point on the wave. Ultimately, the group determines that point P is a physical point and the answer is choice C. They also discuss how the spot of paint would move in relation to the wave.
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Please help. I'm having difficulty with this problem. My book offers an answer but no explanation. Thanks for helping.I have the answer if you guys want it.
 

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Note that the wave is moving to the right. Hence, translate the whole curve slightly to the right to determine where point P will eventually be.
 
  • #3
Yes, but doesn't each point on the wave maintain it's position in the positive x direction? It's only the y component of each point which changes. Anyone else have any idea?
 
  • #4
kudos213 said:
Yes, but doesn't each point on the wave maintain it's position in the positive x direction? It's only the y component of each point which changes. Anyone else have any idea?

Yes, the point P oscillates only in the y direction, so as the wave moves to the right, will point P move up or down?

~H
 
  • #5
negative y hat
 
  • #6
kudos213 said:
negative y hat

Yes, I suggest we let the OP finish of the question.

~H
 
  • #7
word...i'm still new here i.e. learning the ropes. how could we mathematically solved this question?
 
  • #8
kudos213 said:
word...i'm still new here i.e. learning the ropes. how could we mathematically solved this question?

You couldn't, there is no data given (velocity/ displacement / time).

~H
 
  • #9
This question actually somewhat ambiguous, and as such the OP might get the wrong advice and answer.

Depending on how you interpret "point P", your answer will be different!
a] Point P is a physical point on the rope.
b] Point P is an imaginary point on the wave.

Pizzasky interpreted it as a], but others interpreted it as b].

I'm am 99.9% certain a] is correct. So, yes, follow Kudos and Hoot's guidance.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
This question actually somewhat ambiguous, and as such the OP might get the wrong advice and answer.

Depending on how you interpret "point P", your answer will be different!
a] Point P is a physical point on the rope.
b] Point P is an imaginary point on the wave.

Pizzasky interpreted it as a], but others interpreted it as b].

I'm am 99.9% certain a] is correct. So, yes, follow Kudos and Hoot's guidance.

The OP said they have the correct answer, it would be helpful if he/she could post it to clear the matter up. But I agree with Dave, it is an ambiguous question, I was assuming point P is a physical point on the wave.

~H
 
  • #11
if the wave is going to the right, then shouldn't the answer be c?
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maybe I am missing something
 
  • #12
skywolf said:
if the wave is going to the right, then shouldn't the answer be c?
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maybe I am missing something

That is what we were discussing, I'll refer you to posts #4,5,6,7

~H
 
  • #13
The answer key gives choice C.

Anyone care to explain? Thank you all. :wink:
 
  • #14
OK. That clears up what they're asking. Point P is a physical point on the rope. Pretend it's a spot of paint.

Now, as the wave travels down the rope, how will that spot of paint move?

Think of this: the rope is tied off the right side to a lamppost. Your friend is off to the left, holding the rope, waving it up and down, creating the wave. (Note that the rope does not actually go anywhere - he can wave all he wants, but the rope will remain in our field of vision).

NOW what will the spot of paint do?
 
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