How can I simplify this derivative to make calculating arc length easier?

In summary, to find the arc length of the given function, we need to find the derivative and then use the formula L=\intds=\sqrt{1+(dy/dx)^{2}}. Simplifying the derivative may be helpful, and we can do so by using polynomial division and substituting a letter for (x+1).
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Hi! Here's my question on finding arc length. If I've taken the derivative correctly, is there anyway I can simplify it before putting it into the arc length formula?

Homework Statement


Find the arc length where 0[tex]\leq[/tex]x[tex]\leq[/tex]2
y=(x[tex]^{3}[/tex]/3)+x[tex]^{2}[/tex]+x+1/(4x+4)


Homework Equations


L=[tex]\int[/tex]ds=[tex]\sqrt{1+(dy/dx)^{2}}[/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution


I've only taken the derivative so far:
(dy/dx)=x[tex]^{2}[/tex]+2x+1-4(4x+4)[tex]^{-2}[/tex]
=(x+1)[tex]^{2}[/tex]-4(4x+4)[tex]^{-2}[/tex]


I tried expanding the equation, but that only makes it more complex.

I know to find the arc length I need to square the derivative and place it in the formula (and possibly using substitution), but I'm just wondering how I can simplify the above equation to make it easier to square and calculate!
 
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Polynomial division! =]
 
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Yeah you should get this if you do the polynomial division correctly:

[tex]\int_0^2 (x+1)^2 + \frac{1}{4(x+1)^4} dx[/tex].

To make things easier, denote (x+1) by A or some other letter, then it'll look easier.

EDIT: Fixed error
 
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I would look at it like this:
[tex]y'= x^2+ 2x+ 1- \frac{4}{(4x+ 4)^2}= x^2+ 2x+ 1- \frac{1}{4(x+1)^2}[/tex]
[tex]= (x+ 1)^2- \left(\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\right)^2[/tex]
so
[tex](y')^2= (x+1)^4- 1/2+ \left(\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\right)^4[/tex]
[tex](y')^2+ 1= (x+1)^4+ 1/2+ \left(\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\right)^4[/tex]
[tex]= \left((x+1)^2+ \left(\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\right)^2\right)^2[/tex]
so that
[tex]\sqrt{(y')^2+ 1}= (x+1)^2+ \frac{1}{2(x+2)}[/tex]
 
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HallsofIvy said:
[tex]= \left((x+1)^2+ \left(\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\right)^2\right)^2[/tex]
so that
[tex]\sqrt{(y')^2+ 1}= (x+1)^2+ \frac{1}{2(x+2)}[/tex]
There's a small error here, the last term should read 1/4(x+1)^2 instead.
 

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