Hydraulics Question: Seeking Explanation on Self-Running Machine

[bunion]

Hi about 4 months back i posted my idea for a self running machine on www.overunity.com forums. Basically i had this simple idea about trying to manipulate a hydraulic system using a quadrant shape.

Sorry to post this here but I've had little feedback on overunity.com despite over 1000 views and i don't know where else to turn. I've had it explained to me by someone who worked in physics but to be honest i didnt understand the explanation properly so all I am asking is could someone please explain exactly why it won't work without just stating the laws of thermodynamics?

Here is the origional message on their forums:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3375.0.html

Thanks
Phil

 

[russ_watters]

The intro to your website seems to imply that you know your pursuit is doomed to failure, so I'm not sure what the point is here. In any case, we don't condone or encourage crackpot thinking here, so we don't allow such discussions. I did do a quick once-over of your site and your ideas have the usual crackpot pitfalls: you've created scenarios so complex that you are unable to find the flaws in them. That doesn't mean the flaws don't exist.

Btw, if you ever want anyone to ever even analyze your work for you, you're going to need to do real calculations to support the ideas. Ie, actually calculating forces, work, and real efficiency. "Units" is not a unit. Your calculations are essentially meaningless. Heck - if you learn the real physics it may enable you to find your mistakes faster and convince you to spend your time on a more worthwhile pursuit.

 

[sir-pinski]

Hi Phil,

Thank you for reaching out and seeking an explanation for your self-running machine idea. I can understand your frustration with not receiving much feedback on the overunity.com forums.

From what I understand, your idea involves using a quadrant shape to manipulate a hydraulic system in order to create a self-running machine. While I am not an expert in hydraulics, I can try to explain why this idea may not work based on the laws of thermodynamics.

The first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted from one form to another. In the case of a self-running machine, the machine would need to continuously produce energy without any external input. This would go against the first law of thermodynamics, as energy cannot be created out of nothing.

Additionally, the second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system (a system without any external input) will always increase over time. Entropy is a measure of disorder or randomness in a system. In order for your self-running machine to work, it would need to continuously decrease its entropy, which goes against the second law of thermodynamics.

In summary, while your idea may seem simple and innovative, it ultimately goes against the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. I hope this explanation helps you understand why your idea may not be feasible. Keep exploring and experimenting, and don't be discouraged by this setback. Who knows, maybe you'll come up with a new idea that does align with the laws of thermodynamics and leads to a breakthrough in the field of hydraulics. Best of luck to you.