Factorizing Expressions: 216x2y2+150x2+6y2+72xy2+360x2y+48xy+40x+8y+7

  • Thread starter chhitiz
  • Start date
In summary, the conversation discusses the use of the Magma software to factorize larger expressions. The user inputs a code and receives a factorization result in return. The user also mentions trying to add a "3" beside the "IntegerRing()" but still getting the same result. The software outputs a factorization result with a total time and memory usage. The user questions how the software works and asks if there are other similar sites available.
  • #1
chhitiz
221
0
is there any way to factorize larger expressions?
i, for example wanted to factorize-
216x2y2+150x2+6y2+72xy2+360x2y+48xy+40x+8y+7
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Magma says it's irreducible:
Code:
P<x,y> := PolynomialRing(IntegerRing(), 2);
Factorization(216*x^2*y^2+150*x^2+6*y^2+72*x*y^2+360*x^2*y+48*x*y+40*x+8*y+7);

[
    <216*x^2*y^2 + 360*x^2*y + 150*x^2 + 72*x*y^2 + 48*x*y + 40*x + 6*y^2 + 8*y 
        + 7, 1>
]

Total time: 0.140 seconds, Total memory usage: 7.28MB
 
  • #3
i entered the code:
P<x,y> := PolynomialRing(IntegerRing(), 2);
Factorization(216*x^2*y^2+150*x^2+6*y^2+72*x*y^2+360*x^2*y+48*x*y+40*x+8*y+2);

[
<216*x^2*y^2 + 360*x^2*y + 150*x^2 + 72*x*y^2 + 48*x*y + 40*x + 6*y^2 + 8*y
+ 2, 1>
]
and got:
[
<2, 1>,
<108*x^2*y^2 + 180*x^2*y + 75*x^2 + 36*x*y^2 + 24*x*y + 20*x + 3*y^2 + 4*y +
1, 1>
]
[
<216*x^2*y^2 + 360*x^2*y + 150*x^2 + 72*x*y^2 + 48*x*y + 40*x + 6*y^2 + 8*y
+ 2, 1>
]

Total time: 0.140 seconds, Total memory usage: 7.28
even tried to put a 3 beside the Integering()(if, that is for no. of factors), to get the same result. but i know,that the above expression is:
2(6xy+5x+y+1)(18xy+15x+3y+1)
how does this work?
 
  • #4
Only the first two lines were input. The following lines were the output I got.
 
  • #5
i entered:
P<x,y> := PolynomialRing(IntegerRing(), 2);
Factorization(216*x^2*y^2+150*x^2+6*y^2+72*x*y^2+360*x^2*y+48*x*y+40*x+8*y+2);
and got:
[
<2, 1>,
<108*x^2*y^2 + 180*x^2*y + 75*x^2 + 36*x*y^2 + 24*x*y + 20*x + 3*y^2 + 4*y +
1, 1>
]

Total time: 0.140 seconds, Total memory usage: 7.28MB
whereas above expressioon is:
2(6xy+5x+y+1)(18xy+15x+3y+1)
how does this work?
 
  • #6
It doesnt, as i suspect you alredy knew.
 
  • #7
are there more sites like the above mentioned magma?
 

1. What is the first step in factorizing this expression?

The first step in factorizing this expression is to identify any common factors among the terms, such as numbers or variables. In this case, the common factor is 2.

2. How do you factorize a polynomial with multiple variables?

To factorize a polynomial with multiple variables, you should first group the terms with common variables together. Then, factor out the common variables from each group using the distributive property. Finally, factor out any remaining common factors among the terms.

3. Can this expression be simplified further?

Yes, this expression can be simplified further by factoring out the common factor of 2. This results in the factored form of 2(108x2y2+75x2+3y2+36xy2+180x2y+24xy+20x+4y+7).

4. What are the key factors to consider when factorizing an expression?

The key factors to consider when factorizing an expression are common factors, grouping of terms, and the use of the distributive property. It is also important to check for any special cases, such as perfect squares or cubes, and to simplify the expression as much as possible.

5. Can factoring help in solving equations involving polynomials?

Yes, factoring can be a useful tool in solving equations involving polynomials. By factoring, you can rewrite the equation in a simpler form and easily identify the roots or solutions. This can be especially helpful in solving quadratic equations.

Similar threads

  • Differential Equations
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Linear and Abstract Algebra
Replies
3
Views
748
  • General Math
Replies
3
Views
551
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
605
  • Linear and Abstract Algebra
Replies
33
Views
3K
  • Classical Physics
Replies
6
Views
804
  • Linear and Abstract Algebra
Replies
1
Views
995
  • Engineering and Comp Sci Homework Help
Replies
32
Views
3K
Back
Top