Electic potential on a cone

In summary, the conversation discusses the speaker's struggles with preparing for grad school due to their limited knowledge in physics. They are currently trying to solve a problem involving an open ended cone with a uniform surface charge, and they are stuck on solving the integral for finding the potential difference between the vertex of the cone and the center of its base. A suggestion is made to use cylindrical coordinates to solve the integral.
  • #1
SummerPhysStudent
2
0
Thanks for taking the time to look at this. I'm getting ready to go to grad school, and I'm realizing that although I did ok in my classes, there are large gaps in my knowledge of physics. That said, I'm currently trying to work my way through an E&M book, and now I'm stuck.

Here's the problem

Pretend that you have an open ended cone with the vertex at the origin and the fat end a distance located at a height R. Coincidently, the Radius of the cone at this height is also R. This cone also carries a uniform surface charge sigma. Find the potential difference between the vertex of the cone and the point at the center of the its base.

So obviously, V = 1 / (4 * pi * e0) * 2pi * int(sqrt(2)*r'dr / r) * sigma

(right)

so it's pretty easy to solve for the vertex, but I can't figure out how to solve the integral for the other point.
Thanks for the help
James
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Try setting up the integrand using cylindrical coordinates [tex](r, \theta, z)[/tex] since that is an obvious choice for cylindrical symmetry (note: you can also use spherical coordinates...they might seem more logical at first sight).
 
  • #3


Hi James,

I understand your frustration with trying to understand a difficult concept in physics. It's great that you are taking the initiative to work through an E&M book to improve your understanding.

To solve this problem, you can use the concept of electric potential on a charged ring. The cone can be thought of as a series of charged rings stacked on top of each other. The potential at any point on the cone can be found by summing the potential contributions from each ring.

To find the potential at the center of the base, you can integrate the potential contributions from each ring at a distance R from the center. This integral can be simplified using the substitution u = r/R, which will result in a simpler form to solve.

I recommend looking up examples of finding electric potential on a charged ring to get a better understanding of the concept and how it can be applied to this problem. Also, don't hesitate to reach out to your professors or classmates for help in understanding the material. Good luck with your studies!
 

What is electric potential on a cone?

Electric potential on a cone refers to the electrical potential energy per unit charge at any point on the surface of a cone. It is a measure of the work required to move a unit charge from infinity to that point on the cone's surface.

What factors affect the electric potential on a cone?

The electric potential on a cone is affected by the shape and size of the cone, the distance from the apex of the cone, and the magnitude and distribution of the charge on the cone's surface.

How is the electric potential on a cone calculated?

The electric potential on a cone is calculated using the formula V = kQ/r, where V is the potential, k is the Coulomb's constant, Q is the charge on the cone's surface, and r is the distance from the apex of the cone to the point of interest.

What is the relationship between electric potential and electric field on a cone?

The electric potential and electric field on a cone are related through the formula E = -dV/dr, where E is the electric field, V is the potential, and r is the distance from the apex of the cone. This relationship shows that the electric field is the negative gradient of the electric potential.

How can the electric potential on a cone be applied in real-life situations?

The concept of electric potential on a cone is important in understanding the behavior of electric fields and charges in various applications, such as in electrical engineering, electromagnetism, and electrostatics. It is also used in studying the electrostatic potential of charged particles and their interaction with other charged objects.

Similar threads

  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
6
Views
902
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
15
Views
1K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • General Math
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
2
Views
845
  • Advanced Physics Homework Help
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • Introductory Physics Homework Help
Replies
15
Views
5K
Back
Top