Solenoid to fire magnetic ball, question about best core material)

In summary, a magnetic ball will be attracted to an iron tube and the iron will stop the ball from going through the solenoid.
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d4rr3n
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So I want to fire a magnetic ball through a solenoid coil but want to know if core material can enhance the performance. Would wire wrapped around soft Iron tube core work better then say a thin copper tube?

The aim is to increase efficiency so less power needs to be used to fire the magnetic ball, and yes I know the ball would be attracted to the Iron.
 
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<puzzled> The iron core will stop the ball from going through the solenoid though.
 
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d4rr3n said:
So I want to fire a magnetic ball through a solenoid coil but want to know if core material can enhance the performance. Would wire wrapped around soft Iron tube core work better then say a thin copper tube?

The aim is to increase efficiency so less power needs to be used to fire the magnetic ball, and yes I know the ball would be attracted to the Iron.

What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
<puzzled> The iron core will stop the ball from going through the solenoid though.

I clearly said it's a tube, an Iron tube.
 
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berkeman said:
What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?

I don't want to fire a metal ball, I want to fire a magnet
 
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d4rr3n said:
I clearly said it's a tube, an Iron tube.
... fair enough: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=75339

What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a metal ball?
d4rr3n said:
I don't want to fire a metal ball, I want to fire a magnet
... OK then, What is the context of your question? Why do you want to fire a magnet?
 
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Any material that does not hog the magnetic field will help.
 
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Hog,you mean shield?

I know that in a standard solenoid an Iron core (tube) improves performance but a solenoid is accelerating an Iron piston, I'm wondering if its accelerating a magnetised piston will this change.
 
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Would progressive fields activated by the magnet's position be used or is it one field? The magnet could activate the next propelling field by a ferric trigger. Spacing fields/triggers would take some work but that would be interesting. The dynamics of the unstable rolling magnet will be a problem with the pole being unlocked. Perhaps a sacrificial container jacket for ball on its ride up the pipe to stabilize the pole for magnetic field synch over progressive propulsion fields.
 
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"Hog" as in the iron gathers all the field lines like a partner hogs the blankets.
That's how the shielding effect happens and also how iron slugs help.
Having a megneic piston changes too many variables to comment - you'll have to do it and see.

homemade is talking about linear accelerator design - you don't need triggers though, just a timer.
I believe your original question has been answered.
 

1. What is a solenoid and how does it work?

A solenoid is a coil of wire that produces a magnetic field when an electric current is passed through it. The magnetic field generated by the solenoid can be used to move a magnetic ball or other objects.

2. What is the best core material for a solenoid to fire a magnetic ball?

The best core material for a solenoid depends on the specific application and desired performance. Generally, materials with high permeability, such as iron or ferrite, are preferred for their ability to increase the strength of the magnetic field. However, other factors such as cost and size may also play a role in determining the best core material.

3. How does the core material affect the performance of a solenoid?

The core material of a solenoid affects its performance by influencing the strength and direction of the magnetic field. A material with high permeability will increase the strength of the magnetic field and improve the efficiency of the solenoid. Different materials may also affect the speed and precision of the solenoid's movements.

4. Can different core materials be used together in a solenoid?

Yes, it is possible to use different core materials in a solenoid. This can be useful in situations where a combination of properties, such as high strength and low cost, is desired. However, care must be taken to ensure that the materials are compatible and do not interfere with each other's performance.

5. Are there any alternative methods to firing a magnetic ball using a solenoid?

Yes, there are alternative methods to firing a magnetic ball using a solenoid. Some examples include using a permanent magnet or an electromagnet with a different design. These methods may have different advantages and disadvantages compared to using a solenoid, and the best option will depend on the specific application.

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