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Error propagation with two functions, two unknowns.

 
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Aug6-12, 04:48 PM   #1
 
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Error propagation with two functions, two unknowns.


If I have two independent variables x,y, and two measurements, m1, m2 with errors. And the dependence is thus:
[tex]
m_1 \pm \delta m_1 = f[x,y]
[/tex]
[tex]
m_2 \pm \delta m_2 = g[x,y]
[/tex]

Now in my case, f and g are complicated expressions of x and y with no simple solution. (Actually I think i can solve one for x, but not for y).

Now if the equations were easy, I could solve for x and y:
[tex]
x \pm \delta_x = F[m_1, m_2,...]
[/tex]
[tex]
y \pm \delta_y = G[m_1, m_2,...]
[/tex]

And from there add the errors in quadrature to get the x and y errors.

BUT if I cant solve for x and y independently, and I must use numerical solutions to get the results ( I can, its easy). How can I go about getting the ERRORS? Is there another way I can solve for the errors and numerically solve for them, or a different method?

I have Mathematica if that helps.
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Aug7-12, 10:01 PM   #2
 
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You should explain what you mean by "error". Are you doing numerical approximations that involve an error in that sense? Are you doing a stochastic simulation where randomness causes an "error"? Or are you teking physical measurements with equipment that has a specified precision?
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If I have two independent variables x,y, and two measurements, m1, m2 with errors. And the dependence is thus:
[tex]
m_1 \pm \delta m_1 = f[x,y]
[/tex]
[tex]
m_2 \pm \delta m_2 = g[x,y]
[/tex]

Now in my case, f and g are complicated expressions of x and y with no simple solution. (Actually I think i can solve one for x, but not for y).

Now if the equations were easy, I could solve for x and y:
[tex]
x \pm \delta_x = F[m_1, m_2,...]
[/tex]
[tex]
y \pm \delta_y = G[m_1, m_2,...]
[/tex]
Not sure if I've understood completely, but see if this helps.
Are f, g differentiable? Can you evaluate the derivatives at (m1, m2)? If so, can write [tex]\delta m_1 = \delta f = f_x \delta x + f_y \delta y; \delta m_2 = \delta g = g_x \delta x + g_y \delta y[/tex]
Evaluating fx etc. at (m1, m2), solve to find δx, δy.
Will need to check that the second order terms are not important.
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