Integrals with no limits. (Backwards differientation)

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of indefinite integrals and their use in various applications. It is explained that an indefinite integral is similar to antidifferentiation, where a function is found that has a derivative equal to the given function. This is useful in solving problems involving rate of change and acceleration. The notation for indefinite integrals is also discussed, with the use of a constant of integration. The relationship between indefinite integrals and definite integrals, which are used to find area under a curve, is also explained. The fundamental theorem of calculus is mentioned as a key connection between these two types of integrals.
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Alright, I understand clearly what a integral with no limits is, what it does, etc.

It is simply backwards differentation (differentation deals with the instanteous slope of a parabola)

And has no limit (no a to b), thus there must be a constant of integration since two (or more) of the same functions can look the same.

It looks like:
[tex]\int[/tex]


I understand that these integrals are backwards differentation, thus backwards slopes?

This doesn't make any sense, what exactly is their use then?

I see a lot of integrals without limits (They do not deal with area like the other type of integrals) being written down about the paradoxes of space (like on the discovery channel/science channel)

This makes me even more interested on their use of them! Because I am hopefully going to be a professor in astrophysics! So far I'm 16, and I have a great start! I even tutor kids after school in math, its great.

I understand the use of integrals with limits , from a to b like used in area, it makes sense! However I don't see the use of integrals without limits (thus with the C constant!)

Help?

:confused:
 
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Consider this problem: given a function f(x), we wish to find a function F(x) such that F'(x) = f(x). The process is called antidifferentiation and F(x) is called an antiderivative of f(x). This "general" problem arises in various applications.

Consider this problem:

I have a particle moving along an x-axis such that its velocity at time t is v(t) = 2t. What is its position function, x(t)? We know from physics that x'(t) = v(t). So we want to find a function x(t) such that x'(t) = 2t. This is an antidifferentiation problem.

How do we solve it? We use educated guesswork. If you're familiar with differentiation then you'll quickly realize that if x(t) = t2, x'(t) = 2t.

So, we're finished right?

Not really. Note that x(t) = t2 + 2, x(t) = t2 - 1, and even x(t) = t2 +1000 qualifies as a solution (since in all of those cases, x'(t) = v(t) ).

Since we have no additional information about x(t), we write the general solution x(t) = t2 + C.

Now that took a lot of time! The notation to describe what we did is

[tex]x(t) = \int v(t)\;dt = \int 2t\;dt = t^2 + C[/tex]

The notation [itex]\int 2t\;dt[/itex] is used to denote all functions x(t) such that x'(t) = 2t.

Now, if we have additional information about x(t) we can find the value of C. For example, if we have the information that the particle is at x = 5 when t = 0, then we can quickly conclude that x(t) = t2 + 5.

Other uses of indefinite integral (the one with upper and lower limit is called definite integral):

- Suppose we know r(t), the rate of change of a city population at time t. Find the function p(t) that describe the population of the city at time t! (note that p'(t) = r(t) )
- Suppose we know a(t), the acceleration of a particle moving along x-axis at time t. Find its position function x(t)! (note that x'(t) = v(t) and v'(t) = a(t))

As a comparison: a definite integral (the one you use to find area) yields a number (in that case the area), while an indefinite integral yields a family of functions (as shown earliear, this family has the form of F(x) + C).

Oh, and btw, the definite and indefinite itegrals are nicely connected to each other. Let f(x) be continuous on [a, b]. Then it can be proved that:

[tex]\int_a^b f(x)\;dx = \left[\int f(x)\;dx\right]_a^b[/tex]

I hope that clears things up :)...
 
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So basically, [tex]\int_a^b f(x)\;dx = \left[\int f(x)\;dx\right]_a^b[/tex]

Is saying that F(x) dx = [tex]\int_a^b f(x)\;dx[/tex]?

The first integral with limits, is the area under a curve of [tex]f(x)[/tex] of each piece of the area of the curve ([tex]dx[/tex]).

But, you can solve the area under the curve with the antiderivative of f(x) dx?

Thanks.

Is this right?
 
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Yep. This connection between antidifferentiation and integration is so important, it's called the fundamental theorem of calculus.

[tex]
\int_a^b f'(t) \, dt = f(b) - f(a)
[/tex]

and if f is continuous,

[tex]
\frac{d}{dx} \int_a^x f(t) \, dt = f(x)
[/tex]
 
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1. What are integrals with no limits?

Integrals with no limits, also known as indefinite integrals, are mathematical expressions that represent the antiderivative or primitive function of a given function. They do not have specific upper or lower limits and can be represented by a constant of integration.

2. How do you differentiate integrals with no limits?

To differentiate integrals with no limits, you can use the reverse power rule, where you increase the exponent by 1 and divide by the new exponent. However, you must also add a constant of integration as the derivative of a constant is 0.

3. What is the importance of integrals with no limits?

Integrals with no limits are important in mathematics and science as they help in finding the original function from its derivative. They are also used in solving various real-world problems, such as finding the distance traveled by an object from its velocity function.

4. Can integrals with no limits have multiple solutions?

Yes, integrals with no limits can have multiple solutions as adding a constant of integration can result in different functions that still have the same derivative. This is known as the family of antiderivatives or general solution.

5. How do you solve integrals with no limits?

To solve integrals with no limits, you can use integration techniques such as u-substitution, integration by parts, or trigonometric substitution. It is also important to remember to add a constant of integration to the solution as it can result in multiple solutions.

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