Eigenvalues for a 4th order boundary value problem

In summary: Both are correct, but the book's solution is more specific and takes into account the given boundary conditions.
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Homework Statement


[tex]y^{(4)}+\lambda y=0[/tex]
[tex]y(0)=y'(0)=0[/tex]
[tex]y(L)=y'(L)=0[/tex]

Homework Equations


The hint says...
[tex]let \lambda = -\mu ^4, \mu >0 or \lambda = 0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Listening to the hint, I got
[tex]r=\pm\mu[/tex] With multiplicity 2 of each. So that means..
[tex]y=c_1 e^{\mu t}+c_2te^{\mu t}+c_3e^{-\mu t}+c_4te^{-\mu t}[/tex]
Finding the derivative and solving the system of the 4x4 matrix (Thank god for the TI-89!) I find that all constants are equal to zero. When lambda equals zero I also get zero for all the constants.

The answer in the back of the book says..
for [tex]\lambda = -\mu^4[/tex] and
[tex]cos(\mu_n L)cosh(\mu_n L)=1[/tex]
[tex]y_n=c_n[(cos(\mu_n L)-cosh(\mu_n L))(sin(\mu_n x)-sinh(\mu_n x))-(sin(\mu_n L)-sinh(\mu_n L))(cos(\mu_n x)-cosh(\mu_n x))][/tex]

I do not understand where they got this. It looks like there are only 2 cases and each case has the trivial solution. Can anyone help me out?
 
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It seems like you have found the general solution for the given differential equation, but the answer in the back of the book is providing a specific solution for the given boundary conditions. This solution is known as the eigenfunction expansion method and it is commonly used in solving boundary value problems.

To understand where the solution in the book is coming from, we first need to understand the concept of eigenfunctions and eigenvalues. In this case, the differential equation can be written as a second-order ODE with constant coefficients, which has the general form of y'' + \lambda y = 0. This type of equation has a set of special solutions called eigenfunctions, which are functions that satisfy the equation for certain values of \lambda, known as eigenvalues.

In our case, the eigenfunctions are of the form y_n(x) = cos(\mu_n x) and y_n(x) = sin(\mu_n x), where \mu_n is a positive constant. Plugging these functions into the differential equation, we get \lambda = -\mu_n^4, which is the eigenvalue corresponding to the eigenfunction y_n(x). This means that for each value of n, we have a different eigenfunction and eigenvalue.

Now, to find the specific solution for the given boundary conditions, we need to use the eigenfunction expansion method. This method states that any solution to the differential equation can be written as a linear combination of the eigenfunctions, with coefficients determined by the boundary conditions. In our case, we have four boundary conditions, so we need to use four eigenfunctions, which are given by y_n(x) = cos(\mu_n x) and y_n(x) = sin(\mu_n x) for n = 1,2,3,4.

Using these eigenfunctions, we can write the solution as y(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{4} c_n y_n(x). Now, we need to determine the coefficients c_n by plugging in the boundary conditions. For example, plugging in x=0 and y=0 gives us c_1 = 0, plugging in x=L and y=0 gives us c_2 = 0, and so on. This will give us a system of equations for the coefficients, which we can solve to get the specific solution provided in the book.

In summary, the solution in the book is a specific solution obtained using the eigenfunction expansion method, while
 

1. What is a 4th order boundary value problem?

A 4th order boundary value problem is a type of mathematical problem that involves finding a solution to a differential equation with a 4th order derivative, subject to certain boundary conditions. This type of problem is commonly encountered in physics and engineering.

2. What are eigenvalues in the context of a 4th order boundary value problem?

Eigenvalues are the values that satisfy a specific equation, known as the characteristic equation, in a 4th order boundary value problem. They are used to determine the solution to the problem and are important in understanding the behavior of the system.

3. How are eigenvalues calculated for a 4th order boundary value problem?

Eigenvalues for a 4th order boundary value problem can be calculated using various methods, such as the shooting method or the finite difference method. These methods involve solving the characteristic equation and using numerical techniques to find the eigenvalues.

4. Can the eigenvalues for a 4th order boundary value problem be complex numbers?

Yes, in some cases, the eigenvalues for a 4th order boundary value problem can be complex numbers. This can occur when the system being studied involves oscillatory behavior or has complex boundary conditions.

5. How do eigenvalues affect the solution to a 4th order boundary value problem?

The eigenvalues play a crucial role in determining the solution to a 4th order boundary value problem. They affect the stability and behavior of the system, and the values of the eigenvalues can determine whether the solution is oscillatory or decaying.

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