Force fields, vectors, and work (mostly just confused by notation)

In summary, the question asks to calculate the work required to move a particle from the origin to the point 2i + 4j without acceleration along two different paths in a force field F = c(iy - jx). After some confusion about the notation used, the conclusion is that the work done is the same for both paths and thus the force field is conservative. There are additional conditions that can be checked, such as calculating ∇ x F, but they are not required for this question.
  • #1
joriarty
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Homework Statement



Consider a force field F = c(iy - jx). From the force field calculate the work required to move a particle from the origin to the point 2i + 4j without acceleration along the two different paths:

  • From the origin to 2i then to 2i + 4j
  • From the origin to 4j then to 2i + 4j

Comment whether the force field is conservative or not

2. The attempt at a solution

I'm just slightly confused by the notation used in the question. I know that i and j are just the unit vectors in the x and y directions, but what is c in the force field expression? And if i and j are already noted in this expression, why are x and y used as well?

Assuming c is just some arbitrary constant, then is the work done simply 6c J for both paths? My logic for this is that for the first path the work done is 2c J along the x-axis and then 4c J along the y-axis (and the other way around for the second path).

Thus the force field is conservative (work done is independent of the path taken).

Is my logic correct, or am I missing something? Thank you :smile:
 
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  • #2
There are conditions for the conservativeness of a force field, you should check one of these (formally) before concluding if it is conservative. If c is an arbitrary constant, x and y are probably variables, so F=F(x, y).
 
  • #3
radou said:
There are conditions for the conservativeness of a force field, you should check one of these (formally) before concluding if it is conservative. If c is an arbitrary constant, x and y are probably variables, so F=F(x, y).

I don't understand - how can I check these conditions formally? Have I not already done so by showing that the work done is the same for both paths in the first part of the question? Note that I am asked to comment on whether or not the force field is conservative, which implies that there are no additional calculations required.
 
  • #4
Well, then that's it - you have shown that the work is independent of the path taken.

You could also calculate ∇ x F, which equals 0 for a conservative force field, but since you're not asked to..
 
  • #5
OK, thanks! :)
 

1. What is a force field?

A force field is a region in space where a force is exerted on objects within that region. This force can be either a push or a pull, and it can be caused by physical objects or other forces.

2. What are some examples of force fields?

Examples of force fields include gravitational fields, electric fields, and magnetic fields. In everyday life, we experience force fields when we feel the pull of Earth's gravity or when we use a magnet to pick up metal objects.

3. What is a vector?

A vector is a mathematical quantity that has both magnitude and direction. In physics, vectors are often used to represent forces and other physical quantities. They are typically represented by an arrow, with the length of the arrow representing the magnitude and the direction of the arrow representing the direction.

4. How do vectors relate to force fields?

Vectors are used to represent the direction and magnitude of forces within a force field. For example, in an electric field, the direction of the vector represents the direction of the force on a charged object, while the magnitude represents the strength of the force.

5. What is work in the context of force fields and vectors?

Work is a measure of the amount of energy transferred when a force is applied over a certain distance. In the context of force fields and vectors, work is often calculated by multiplying the magnitude of the force by the distance over which it is applied, and then taking into account the angle between the force and the direction of motion.

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