Incorporating 3 Forces Into Relativity: Is It Possible?

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea of incorporating gravity into the quantum theory rather than quantizing it, and how quantization of gravity is necessary to understand fundamental ideas of the Universe such as Planck Scale Physics. The approach of incorporating other forces into relativity does not address these necessary ideas. The paper 'Quantizing Geometry or Geometrizing the Quantum?' explores an approach that incorporates gravity into the quantum theory. Additionally, it is mentioned that a theory without singularities at Planck Scale is ultimately a theory of quantum gravity.
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Has it been considered to instead of quantizing gravity, and incorporating gravity into the quantum theory, but rather incorporating the other three forces into relativity?
 
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All of the other forces namely, The Strong Nuclear force and Electroweak force are quantized into and described by Quantum Field Theories: SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) (The Standard Model). A Quantum Field Theory is a combination of Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity. Regardless of that point quantizing gravity is necessary to understand the fundamental ideas of the Universe such as where the Universe came from and Planck Scale Physics in which the Energy Levels require that gravity be incorporated. Your approach doesn't address those ideas which are necessary.
 
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There's this paper, 'Quantizing Geometry or Geometrizing the Quantum?', which follows an approach somewhat along these lines: http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.2879
 
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Kevin_Axion said:
Regardless of that point quantizing gravity is necessary to understand the fundamental ideas of the Universe such as where the Universe came from and Planck Scale Physics in which the Energy Levels require that gravity be incorporated. Your approach doesn't address those ideas which are necessary.

Why is quantization of gravity necessary to understand Planck-scale physics?

Don't we just need a theory of gravity that doesn't have singularities at that level?

I suppose that implies that there is some sort of short-distance cutoff where the gravity equations stop acting like a [tex]1/r^2[/tex] force. But is quantization the only method that will generate this behavior?
 
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inflector said:
Why is quantization of gravity necessary to understand Planck-scale physics?

Don't we just need a theory of gravity that doesn't have singularities at that level?

I suppose that implies that there is some sort of short-distance cutoff where the gravity equations stop acting like a [tex]1/r^2[/tex] force. But is quantization the only method that will generate this behavior?

It is so described in the first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_scale

And a theory without singularities at Planck Scale is ultimately a theory of quantum gravity.
 

1. Can the Theory of Relativity be extended to incorporate three forces?

Yes, it is possible to incorporate three forces into the Theory of Relativity. However, it would require further research and experimentation to develop a comprehensive theory.

2. Which forces would need to be incorporated into the Theory of Relativity?

The three forces that would need to be incorporated are electromagnetism, strong nuclear force, and weak nuclear force.

3. How would incorporating three forces into the Theory of Relativity impact our understanding of the universe?

If successfully incorporated, it could lead to a more unified and comprehensive understanding of the fundamental forces that govern the universe.

4. What challenges would scientists face in incorporating three forces into the Theory of Relativity?

One major challenge would be reconciling the mathematical equations and principles of the Theory of Relativity with those of the three forces. It may also require the development of new mathematical models and theories.

5. Are there any current research or experiments being conducted on this topic?

Yes, there are ongoing research and experiments being conducted by scientists to explore the possibility of incorporating three forces into the Theory of Relativity. However, it is still a topic of ongoing debate and further research is needed.

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