[math analysis] sup f< sup g=>∫f^n<∫g^n

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In summary, using the mean value theorem of integral, you can find an integral equation that links a given function with its inverse function.
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We know that

[tex]\int_0^1{f^n}\leq (\sup f)^n[/tex].

So we need to show that

[tex](\sup f)^n\leq \int_0^1{g^n}[/tex]

Since sup(f)<sup(g), there exists a neighbourhood ]a,b[ such that

[tex]\forall x\in ]a,b[:~\sup(f)<g(x)[/tex]

Now we can use

[tex]\int_0^1{g_n}\geq \int_a^b{g_n}\geq (b-a)\inf_{x\in ]a,b[}{g^n(x)}[/tex].

so you must prove now that there exists an n such that

[tex](\sup f)^n<(b-a)\inf_{x\in ]a,b[}{g^n(x)}[/tex]
 
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micromass said:
We know that

[tex]\int_0^1{f^n}\leq (\sup f)^n[/tex].

So we need to show that

[tex](\sup f)^n\leq \int_0^1{g^n}[/tex]

Since sup(f)<sup(g), there exists a neighbourhood ]a,b[ such that

[tex]\forall x\in ]a,b[:~\sup(f)<g(x)[/tex]

Now we can use

[tex]\int_0^1{g_n}\geq \int_a^b{g_n}\geq (b-a)\inf_{x\in ]a,b[}{g^n(x)}[/tex].

so you must prove now that there exists an n such that

[tex](\sup f)^n<(b-a)\inf_{x\in ]a,b[}{g^n(x)}[/tex]
Hi Micromass. Thank you for your help with https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=451462
I now know how to solve the first question, but I still do not know know to link them with e[tex]^{mn+c}[/tex]. I tried the mean value theorem of integral without success. Could you please give me another hint? Thank you!
 
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mathdunce said:
Hi Micromass. Thank you for your help with https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=451462
I now know how to solve the first question, but I still do not know know to link them with e[tex]^{mn+c}[/tex]. I tried the mean value theorem of integral without success. Could you please give me another hint? Thank you!

Oh, I think I know how to do the second one, too. Thanks. I have not written it down formally yet.
 

1. What does "sup" mean in this context?

In math analysis, "sup" stands for supremum, which is the least upper bound of a set. In this equation, it refers to the supremum of the function f.

2. What does "∫" represent in this equation?

The symbol "∫" is the integral sign, which represents the integration of a function over a given interval. In this equation, it is used to find the integral of both f^n and g^n.

3. How do you read the equation "f^g"?

The notation "f^g" is read as "f raised to the power of g". This means that the function f is being raised to the power of the function g.

4. Can you give an example of this equation?

Yes, for example, if f(x) = x^2 and g(x) = 2x, then the equation would be written as: sup(x^2) < sup(2x) => ∫(x^2)^n < ∫(2x)^n.

5. What does this equation tell us about the functions f and g?

This equation is known as the Holder's inequality and it tells us that if f and g are two non-negative functions on a given interval, with f^n and g^n being integrable, then the supremum of f must be less than or equal to the supremum of g in order for the integral of f^n to be less than or equal to the integral of g^n. In other words, this inequality helps us compare the behavior of two functions on a given interval.

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