Calculating Max Compression of Massless Hookslaw Spring

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of energy methods to determine the length of a massless spring when a mass is dropped on it from a certain height. It is suggested to write the spring constant in terms of other known parameters in order to solve for the length at maximum compression. This will help to determine the spring constant in relation to other parameters and can be used to find the length of the spring at any given compression.
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Homework Statement



A massless hooksw law spring has a unstretched length of L, when a mass m is ploaced on it, and slowly lowered until the mass is at rest, the spring is queezed to a length of x. the mass is then dropped on the spring from a height of h, use energ methods

what is the length of the spring at maximum compression as a result of the mass dropping on it

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The Attempt at a Solution



mgh = -mgs + .5ks2

s = -mg + or -(((mg)2 - 4(.5k)(mgh))/k).5

if this is correct
 

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The question is worded aquardly, but I think you're on the right path with your firse equation. Now you need to write the spring constant k in terms of other parameters you have in your problem.

Also, you get two anilytical solutions. Can you think which sollution is correct? What does your non-physical solution correspond do?
 
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what would be the benefit from solving for the spring constant

it asks for the length of the spring at compression s
 
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joemama69 said:
what would be the benefit from solving for the spring constant

That way the spring constant is expressed in terms of other known parameters.
 
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k = (2mgs - 2mgh)s2 = 2mg(s-h)/s2

i still don't understand how that helps, what would i use it for now
 

1. What is Hooke's Law and how does it relate to calculating max compression of a massless spring?

Hooke's Law is a principle in physics that states the force required to extend or compress a spring is directly proportional to the distance the spring is stretched or compressed. This means that the more a spring is stretched or compressed, the greater the force applied to it. This law is important for calculating the maximum compression of a massless spring because it allows us to determine how much force can be applied to the spring before it reaches its maximum compression point.

2. What is a massless spring and why is it used in this calculation?

A massless spring is a theoretical concept used in physics to simplify calculations. It is assumed that the spring has no mass, which means that its weight does not affect its behavior. This allows us to focus solely on the force applied to the spring and its resulting displacement, making the calculation more accurate and easier to understand.

3. What factors affect the maximum compression of a massless spring?

The maximum compression of a massless spring is affected by two main factors: the stiffness of the spring and the force applied to it. The stiffness, or spring constant, is determined by the material and design of the spring and remains constant. The force applied, however, can vary and will directly impact the maximum compression of the spring.

4. How do you calculate the maximum compression of a massless spring?

The formula for calculating the maximum compression of a massless spring is: x = F/k, where x is the maximum compression, F is the force applied to the spring, and k is the spring constant. This formula assumes that the spring obeys Hooke's Law and that the force applied is directly proportional to the spring's displacement.

5. What is the significance of calculating the maximum compression of a massless spring?

The maximum compression of a massless spring is an important calculation in physics because it allows us to understand the limits of a spring's elasticity. This information is crucial for designing and using springs in various applications, such as in mechanical devices, to ensure that they do not break or become damaged. Additionally, understanding the maximum compression of a massless spring can help us to make predictions and solve problems in other areas of physics, such as in simple harmonic motion.

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