Total spin quantum number of helium atom with 2 electrons in first shell

In summary, when two electrons are in the first shell (1s) of a helium atom, their total spin is determined by the sum of their opposite spins (+1/2 and -1/2) due to the Pauli exclusion principle. This results in a total spin of 0 for the atom. However, it is important to note that the total spin of an atom is the sum of the electronic spin, nuclear spin, and orbital angular momentum, and it is possible for the total spin to be 0. The problem in question is likely only asking for the total electronic spin, which can be either S=0 or S=1 depending on the combination of the two spin-1/2 particles. It is necessary to understand
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Homework Statement



A helium atom had two electrons in the first shell (1s). Explain, withour detailed derivation, what the value of the total spin quantum number is.

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Since the 2 electrons are in the first (1s) shell they must have opposite spins, +1/2, and -1/2 due to pauli exclusion principle. The total spin must be their sum +1/2-1/2=0. Therefore the atom spin is 0? Can atoms have spin 0?
 
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A couple of misconceptions:

1) That's not the spin of the atom. The spin of the atom is the sum of the electronic spin, the nuclear spin, and the orbital angular momentum. (There's no reason the spin of an atom can't be 0.)

2) You've shown that the z-component of the total electronic spin is 0. You haven't shown that the total spin is 0. It's possible, for instance, that the electrons are in the S=1, mS=0 state.

I'm guessing the problem isn't asking about the atom's spin but just the total electronic spin. When you have two spin-1/2 particles, their spins can combine to form an S=0 or S=1 state. You need to explain why one of them is not allowed.
 
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vela said:
A couple of misconceptions:

1) That's not the spin of the atom. The spin of the atom is the sum of the electronic spin, the nuclear spin, and the orbital angular momentum. (There's no reason the spin of an atom can't be 0.)

2) You've shown that the z-component of the total electronic spin is 0. You haven't shown that the total spin is 0. It's possible, for instance, that the electrons are in the S=1, mS=0 state.

I'm guessing the problem isn't asking about the atom's spin but just the total electronic spin. When you have two spin-1/2 particles, their spins can combine to form an S=0 or S=1 state. You need to explain why one of them is not allowed.

I asked the proffesor and he said the same, that the answer was just for the z-axis, he didn't explain. Why is this for the z-axis? Is the total spin just the sum of all the spins? But we don't know the nuclear spin etc?
 
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You need to go back and review the addition of angular momentum in quantum mechanics. This is a fundamental topic in quantum mechanics that you need to know. In particular, you should be able to apply the concepts to two spin-1/2 particles to find their total angular momentum.
 
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1. What is the total spin quantum number of a helium atom with 2 electrons in the first shell?

The total spin quantum number, denoted by S, of a helium atom with 2 electrons in the first shell is 0. This is because each electron in the first shell has a spin quantum number of s = 1/2, and when combined, their spins cancel each other out resulting in a total spin of 0.

2. How is the total spin quantum number of a helium atom determined?

The total spin quantum number of a helium atom is determined by adding the individual spin quantum numbers of its electrons. Since helium has 2 electrons in the first shell, the total spin quantum number will be the sum of their spin quantum numbers, which is 1/2 + 1/2 = 1.

3. What does the total spin quantum number of a helium atom represent?

The total spin quantum number of a helium atom represents the total angular momentum of its electrons. It is also a quantum number that determines the spin state of the atom, which can affect its properties and behavior in certain situations.

4. Can the total spin quantum number of a helium atom change?

No, the total spin quantum number of a helium atom cannot change as it is a quantum number that is constant for a given atom. However, the individual spin quantum numbers of its electrons can change if the atom undergoes a process such as ionization or electron excitation.

5. How does the total spin quantum number of a helium atom compare to other atoms with different numbers of electrons?

The total spin quantum number of a helium atom is unique to its configuration of 2 electrons in the first shell. Other atoms with different numbers of electrons will have different total spin quantum numbers, depending on the arrangement and number of electrons in their shells.

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