Compare Infinities: 0 to 1 vs. 2 to ∞

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of two sets having the same size and how it applies to finite and infinite sets. The teacher uses the example of the bijective function 1/x to show that the intervals 0 to 1 and 1 to infinity have the same size. However, it is not possible to match the integers 1-1 and onto to the interval 0 to 1, showing that the interval is a bigger infinity.
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I don't know if you can say this, but my teacher said today that there is just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as 2 and ∞. He then said this could easily be seen by looking at the bijective function 1/x. Can anyone try to explain what he meant?
 
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I don't know if you can say this, but my teacher said today that there is just as many numbers between 0 and 1 as 2 and ∞. He then said this could easily be seen by looking at the bijective function 1/x. Can anyone try to explain what he meant?

The idea to think about is what does it mean for two sets to have the same size. For finite sets we could just count each one and see if the number is the same but underlying this is a more fundamental idea.

That is: Two sets have the same size if there is a way to match the elements of one to the elements of the other so that both sets are used up and only one thing gets matched to one thing. If it is not possible to completely uses up one of the two sets with any matching, then we would say that that set is bigger.So for instance, the set {1,2} and the set {3.4} have the same size because the matching

1 -> 3 and 2->4 uses up both sets and only one number is matched to one other number,

the matching 1->4 ,2->3 also works.

We would not say that the matching

1-> 3, 2->3 means that {3,4} is bigger and that shows why the matching must pair only one number to one other number.

For infinities the idea is exactly the same. Two infinite sets have the same size if it is possible to match each to the other without repetitions. So for instance, the even integers have the same size as all of the integers because each integer can be matched to its double.
1 is matched to 2, 2 to 4, 3 to 6, and so on. This matching is "1 to 1", that is each integer is matched to a different even integer, and "onto" that is both sets are completely matched up.

he function 1/x maps the interval 1 to infinity to the interval 0 1 in a 1-1 and onto way. So the two intervals have the same size.

Interestingly, it is not possible to match the integers 1-1 and onto to the interval 0 to1. The interval can never be completely used up. So its is bigger. It is a bigger infinity.
 

1. What is the difference between 0 to 1 and 2 to ∞ infinities?

The main difference between 0 to 1 and 2 to ∞ infinities is their magnitude. 0 to 1 represents infinitesimally small numbers, while 2 to ∞ represents infinitely large numbers. In other words, 0 to 1 is a range of numbers approaching but never reaching 1, while 2 to ∞ is a range of numbers that start at 2 and continue infinitely larger.

2. How do these infinities compare to each other?

In terms of size, 2 to ∞ is infinitely larger than 0 to 1. This means that no matter how close the numbers in the range of 0 to 1 get to 1, they will never reach 2 to ∞ in magnitude.

3. Are there any practical applications for comparing these infinities?

Yes, there are practical applications for comparing these infinities. For example, in calculus, the concept of limits uses the comparison of 0 to 1 and 2 to ∞ infinities to determine the behavior of functions at certain points. Additionally, the comparison of infinities is also relevant in fields such as physics and computer science.

4. Can 0 to 1 and 2 to ∞ infinities be visualized?

While it is difficult to visualize infinite numbers, there are some ways to represent the difference between 0 to 1 and 2 to ∞ infinities. One way is to use a number line, where 0 to 1 is represented by a very small line segment and 2 to ∞ is represented by a much larger line segment that extends infinitely. Another way is to use a graph, where 0 to 1 would be a curve approaching but never reaching 1, while 2 to ∞ would be a straight line at a much higher point on the graph.

5. Is there any limit to the comparison of infinities?

There is no limit to the comparison of infinities. As long as there is a concept of a number that is infinitely larger or smaller than another, the comparison can continue. However, in mathematics, the concept of infinity is well-defined and has specific rules and properties that are used to compare different types of infinities.

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