Settle and arguement between retards

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Settle and argument between retards :)

http://turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=19999&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

basically is a car forum with a guy on there NO ONE can convince.

he does not understand the concept of load put on let's say an engine.

for example, accelerating up a hill, would put more of a load on the engine, rather than accelerating on a flat surfce.

the argument is basically, accelerating in 5th gear puts more of a load on the engine than let's say 3rd gear, which is definatly correct. because the lower gear ratio, amoungst other factors (wind resistance at high speeds, ect) generate a larger load on an engine therefore making it more prone to high temps/detonation/ect...

all common knowledge, but he won't understand. i was hopefully someone who is a real physics wiz would be able to explain this in terms this kid could understand.

thanks, here is some quotes from him LOL

Your engine has the same load whether your going up a 45 degree angle or on a flat road. Why can't you understand this?

I was talking about you and rogue, you are still completely wrong. You are not partially correct whatsoever. Load increases only when you step your foot on the gas peddal further. Load can't increase if your peddal is to the floor.

No matter what ****in type of load it is. Whether its the map sensor reading, or physical load on the crankshaft.

the truth is neither one of you understand,

At Wide Open throttle...the load on your engine is the same whether your in 4th gear or 5th gear.

Tell that to anybody with intelligence and they will agree

hp output is the definination of load, hp stays constant.

 

[.:JimmY:.]

the argument is basically, accelerating in 5th gear puts more of a load on the engine than let's say 3rd gear, which is definatly correct. because the lower gear ratio, amoungst other factors (wind resistance at high speeds, ect) generate a larger load on an engine therefore making it more prone to high temps/detonation/ect...

if u r already going 70mph and starts to accelerate in 5th gear it won't put that much "load" as if u try to accelerate it while going 20mph, coz of friction, kinetic energy and viscous drag.i don't what is his point of view.
but RPM can be held responsible for wearing down engine more that load coz in an engine with a given amount of fuel the pressure is almost always the same. but exessive load will damage the crank shaft and the gears because of coupling of torques, one for the engine itself and other from the load.

 

[sir-pinski]

First of all, using derogatory terms like "retards" is never acceptable and should not be used to settle an argument. Let's focus on the actual topic at hand. It is clear that there is a disagreement on the concept of load on an engine. However, it is important to remember that there are different types of load that can affect an engine, such as physical load on the crankshaft and load on the engine's components. It is also important to consider external factors, such as wind resistance, when discussing load on an engine.

It is true that accelerating up a hill would put more load on the engine compared to accelerating on a flat surface. This is because the engine would have to work harder to overcome the force of gravity and maintain speed. It is also true that using a lower gear, such as 3rd gear, would put more load on the engine compared to using a higher gear, such as 5th gear. This is due to the gear ratio and the amount of torque required to move the car.

In regards to load increasing with a wider throttle, this is partially correct. While increasing the throttle does increase load on the engine, it is not the only factor that affects load. Other factors, such as air/fuel mixture and engine speed, also play a role in determining load on the engine.

It is important to have a basic understanding of physics and how it relates to engine performance. However, instead of insulting each other's intelligence, let's focus on having a respectful and productive discussion. It is clear that both parties have different perspectives on this topic, but it is possible to come to a mutual understanding by considering all aspects and evidence. Let's keep the conversation civil and respectful.