Sources of gravitational fields

In summary: It's unlikely that the behaviour of anti-hydrogen would be so radically different that it would necessitate a new theory of gravity."
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positive charges are sources of electric field and -ve charges are sink. what are sources and sink of gravitational fields?
 
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Originally posted by lamp post
positive charges are sources of electric field and -ve charges are sink. what are sources and sink of gravitational fields?
Putting aside general relativity, I would say that mass is the "source" of the gravitational field. There is no "sink".
 
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It's not that simple.

Poisson's equation for electrostatics (non-relativistic limit):
div E = +ρcharge

Poisson's equation for gravity (non-relativistic limit):
div g = -ρmass

Therefore, these are two fundamentally different types of fields. The electric one sources with respect to like particles and sinks WRT unlike particles. The gravitational one sinks WRT everything.
 
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Originally posted by lamp post
positive charges are sources of electric field and -ve charges are sink. what are sources and sink of gravitational fields?

Mass is the source of the gravitational field
 
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source and sink of gravitational field is the center of mass itself
 
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What about anti-matter? Does a neutral anti-hydrogen atom (a hydrogen anti-atom? I mean a positron and anti-proton) fall to the floor of the chamber it's created in (somewhere in the CERN facilities, for example), or rise toward the ceiling (assuming other forces on the atom are balanced)?

To what extent has the gravitational interaction between matter and anti-matter been observed? What is the maximum deviation from theory consistent with the best experimental data? (or, how well do observations match predictions from theory?)
 
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Nereid,

I believe that the equivalence of accelleration and gravity forces (the elevator tale) is part of the general relativity theory. Anti-matter should behave the same to acceleration forces as normal matter, hence it is predicted that anti-matter is also reacting normally on gravity.

This should answer your question:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/antimatterFall.html [Broken]
 
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Originally posted by Nereid
What about anti-matter? Does a neutral anti-hydrogen atom (a hydrogen anti-atom? I mean a positron and anti-proton) fall to the floor of the chamber it's created in (somewhere in the CERN facilities, for example), or rise toward the ceiling (assuming other forces on the atom are balanced)?

To what extent has the gravitational interaction between matter and anti-matter been observed? What is the maximum deviation from theory consistent with the best experimental data? (or, how well do observations match predictions from theory?)

Antimatter is just matter. The name is misleading. E.g. Each particle has an antiparticle where antipartilc is defined as
a particle that has the same mass as another particle but has opposite values for its other properties; interaction of a particle and its antiparticle results in annihilation and the production of radiant energy.

It can't be said that one is matter and the other matter. It's really a matter of which one is discovered first
 
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What experimental data is there on the gravitational interaction of anti-matter?

IIRC, quite a few of the other properties of anti-matter have been tested experimentally, but I don't recall seeing anything on observations of gravity.
 
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Originally posted by Nereid
What experimental data is there on the gravitational interaction of anti-matter?

IIRC, quite a few of the other properties of anti-matter have been tested experimentally, but I don't recall seeing anything on observations of gravity.

That isn't really a meaningful question. E.g. suppose there are two particles A and B and the two form an anti-particle pair. By this it is mean that A is the anti-particle of B and B is the anti-partilce of A. Each has a well defined mass and it is that which is the source of gravity and it is that which responds to gravity. It is therefore not meaningul to call one matter and the other anti-matter. It's only an historical quirk that the particles have those names. Had the positron been discovered before he electron then it would be the electron which would have been called "anti-matter" and not not the anti-electron - aka positron. The electron might then a have been called the anti-positron.

See also
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/antimatterFall.html [Broken]

http://info.web.cern.ch/info/Press/PressReleases/Releases1996/PR01.96EAntiHydrogen.html
 
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Thanks pmb and Andre.

I really liked the opening para in the first link you posted:

"In theory, antimatter dropped over the surface of the Earth should fall down. However, the issue has never been successfully experimentally tested. The theoretical grounds for expecting antimatter to fall down are very strong, so virtually all physicists expect antimatter to fall down -- however, some physicists believe that antimatter might fall down with a different acceleration than that of ordinary matter. Since this has never been experimentally tested, it's important to keep an open mind."

A sentence or three in the third para of the second are also good:

"If the behaviour of anti-hydrogen differed even in the tiniest detail from that of ordinary hydrogen, physicists would have to rethink or abandon many of the established ideas on the symmetry between matter and antimatter. Newton's historic work on gravity was supposedly prompted by watching an apple fall to earth, but would an "anti-apple" fall in the same way? It is believed that antimatter "works" under gravity in the same way as matter, but if nature has chosen otherwise, we must find out how and why."

No matter how solid we believe a theory is, we should always be looking for ways to test it further.

[Edit: added Andre (I hadn't realized that the Andre's and pmb's first link were the same :frown: ]
 
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What is a gravitational field?

A gravitational field is a region in space where objects with mass experience a force of attraction towards each other. It is a fundamental concept in physics and is described by Einstein's theory of general relativity.

What are the sources of gravitational fields?

The sources of gravitational fields are objects with mass, such as planets, stars, and other celestial bodies. These objects create a gravitational field around them that can influence the motion of other objects in their vicinity.

How do sources of gravitational fields affect space and time?

According to Einstein's theory of general relativity, massive objects create a curvature in space-time, which is the fabric of the universe. This curvature is what causes the force of gravity and can affect the motion of objects in space.

Can gravitational fields be shielded or canceled?

No, gravitational fields cannot be shielded or canceled. The force of gravity is a fundamental force in the universe, and objects with mass will always exert a gravitational force on each other. However, the strength of the gravitational force can be weakened by increasing the distance between objects.

How do scientists study sources of gravitational fields?

Scientists study sources of gravitational fields through various methods, including observing the motion of objects in space, measuring the effects of gravity on light and other particles, and conducting experiments using large objects with known masses. They also use mathematical models and simulations to understand and predict the behavior of gravitational fields.

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