Integral of G(x,y): dx vs. dy vs. ds

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In summary, the physical interpretation of line integrals can vary depending on the type being used. The line integral with respect to arc length represents the area of a "curtain" falling from G(x,y) down to the path C on the xy plane. The line integrals with respect to x and y do not have obvious physical interpretations, but can be computed using parametrization of the curve.
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If you have a curve integral, what is the conceptual or physical difference between integrating G(x,y)dx, G(x,y)dy and G(x,y)ds ?? How do you know when to do either one??

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If you have a curve integral, what is the conceptual or physical difference between integrating G(x,y)dx, G(x,y)dy and G(x,y)ds ?? How do you know when to do either one??

Confused. :shy:

You sound like you might be asking what the physical interpretations of these various line integrals are. The last one, G(x,y)ds, is called the line integral with respect to arc length. In single variable calculus, we say that if f(x) is positive, then the definite integral of f(x) over [a,b] represents the area under the graph of f(x) from a to b. In multivariable calculus, imagine graphing G(x,y) in an xyz space, and imagine the path C on the xy plane. We say that if G(x,y) is positive along path C, then the line integral of G(x,y)ds represents the area of the "curtain" that falls from G(x,y) down to path C on the xy plane.

There isn't any obvious physical description of the line integrals of G(x,y) with respect to x or y (not one that I can think of, anyway). But I can say this much. The differential dx represents a change from (x,y) to a new point, in the x direction, and dy represents an analogous small change in the y direction. The differential ds represents a change beginning at some point (x,y) and ending at another point, moving along curve C.

Computationally, these line integrals are very simple. If curve C can be parametrized according to two functions x(t) and y(t), then just rewrite the integrands like this:

[tex]G(x(t),y(t))\frac{dx}{dt}dt[/tex]

[tex]G(x(t),y(t))\frac{dy}{dt}dt[/tex]

[tex]G(x(t),y(t))\sqrt{(\dfrac{dx}{dt})^{2}+(\frac{dy}{dt})^{2}}[/tex]

And that's how you do line integrals.
 
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The integral of G(x,y)dx, G(x,y)dy, and G(x,y)ds are all different types of integrals that represent different concepts in mathematics and physics. The choice of which integral to use depends on the specific problem or situation at hand.

The integral of G(x,y)dx represents the area under the curve of a function G(x,y) in the x-direction. This is commonly known as a double integral and is used to find the volume under a surface or the area between two curves. In this case, the independent variable is x and the integral is taken with respect to x.

On the other hand, the integral of G(x,y)dy represents the area under the curve of a function G(x,y) in the y-direction. This is also a double integral, but the independent variable is y and the integral is taken with respect to y. This type of integral is useful when finding the volume between two surfaces or the area enclosed by a curve.

Lastly, the integral of G(x,y)ds represents the arc length of a curve. In this case, the independent variable is the distance along the curve, represented by ds. This type of integral is commonly used in physics to find the work done by a force along a curved path or the total distance traveled along a curved path.

So, the difference between these integrals lies in what they represent and the independent variable used. The choice of which integral to use depends on the specific problem or situation at hand. For example, if you are trying to find the volume under a surface, you would use the integral of G(x,y)dx or G(x,y)dy, depending on whether the surface is bounded by curves in the x or y direction. If you are trying to find the work done along a curved path, you would use the integral of G(x,y)ds.

In summary, the integral of G(x,y)dx, G(x,y)dy, and G(x,y)ds represent different concepts and are used in different situations. The choice of which integral to use depends on the problem at hand and the independent variable being considered.
 

1. What is the meaning of the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds?

The integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds is a mathematical concept that involves finding the area under a function G(x,y) in a specific region. The integral with respect to x involves finding the area under the curve when y is held constant. The integral with respect to y involves finding the area under the curve when x is held constant. The integral with respect to ds involves finding the area under the curve along a specific path or curve in the x-y plane.

2. How is the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds calculated?

The integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds is calculated using a process called integration. This involves breaking down the function into smaller parts and using mathematical techniques to find the area under each part. The results are then added together to get the total area under the curve.

3. What are the applications of the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds?

The integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds is used in various fields of science and engineering. It is used in physics to calculate work done, in economics to calculate revenue and profit, in engineering to calculate forces and moments, and in biology to calculate growth rates. It also has applications in image processing, signal analysis, and probability theory.

4. How is the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds related to the concept of an antiderivative?

The integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds can be thought of as the reverse process of differentiation. Just like how the derivative of a function gives us the slope of the tangent line at a point, the integral of a function gives us the area under the curve. An antiderivative is a function that, when differentiated, gives us the original function. The integral of G(x,y) is the antiderivative of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds.

5. Can the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds be calculated for any function?

Yes, the integral of G(x,y) with respect to x, y, and ds can be calculated for any function, as long as the function is continuous within the given limits. However, the process of integration can be complex and may require advanced mathematical techniques for more complicated functions. In some cases, the integral may not have a closed-form solution and may need to be approximated using numerical methods.

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