Harmonic oscillator outside classically allowed region

He starts by using the given formula for psi(x) and setting n=0. He then subtracts the probability from 0 to infinity from the probability from 0 to the classically allowed nrg, with the assumption that the remainder would be the probability of finding the particle outside the classically allowed region. However, this leads to the problem of finding the integral of e^(-a*x^2) from 0 to the classical nrg, which cannot be done analytically and must be done numerically. Patrick suggests using a table of the "error function" or using a software program like Maple or
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the problem is as follows: in the ground state of the harmonic oscillator what is the probabilty of finding the particle outside the classically allowed region. where the classically allowed nrg is given by E=(1/2)m*omega^2*a^2 (where a is the amplitude).

were given that psi(x)=(m*omega/pi*h-bar)^(1/4)*(2^n*n!)^(-1/2)*H(zeta)*e^(-zeta^2/2)
where H(zeta) depends on n, but for this problem n=0

so i figured that if the probabilty of this from 0 to infinity (which is 1/2) then subtract the probability from 0 to the classical nrg, then the remainer should be the probablity of finding it outside the said classical region. right?

but that leads to the problem of finding the integral of e^(-a*x^2) from 0 to classical nrg... and this doesn't seem possible... is it?

cheers!
 
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yukikokami said:
the problem is as follows: in the ground state of the harmonic oscillator what is the probabilty of finding the particle outside the classically allowed region. where the classically allowed nrg is given by E=(1/2)m*omega^2*a^2 (where a is the amplitude).

were given that psi(x)=(m*omega/pi*h-bar)^(1/4)*(2^n*n!)^(-1/2)*H(zeta)*e^(-zeta^2/2)
where H(zeta) depends on n, but for this problem n=0

so i figured that if the probabilty of this from 0 to infinity (which is 1/2) then subtract the probability from 0 to the classical nrg, then the remainer should be the probablity of finding it outside the said classical region. right?

but that leads to the problem of finding the integral of e^(-a*x^2) from 0 to classical nrg... and this doesn't seem possible... is it?

cheers!

It's not possible analytically, it must be done numerically. Look up a table of the "error function" (be careful, depending on the convention used in the book you pick up, you might have to do some work to convert th eresult of the table into the form you need) or use Maple/Mathematica.

Patrick
 

1. What is a harmonic oscillator outside the classically allowed region?

A harmonic oscillator is a physical system that exhibits harmonic motion, meaning that it oscillates back and forth between two points. Outside the classically allowed region, the oscillator is in a state where it does not have enough energy to move between the two points.

2. Why is the classically allowed region important in the study of harmonic oscillators?

The classically allowed region is important because it defines the range of energies that the harmonic oscillator is allowed to have. If the oscillator has too little energy to reach this region, it will not be able to undergo harmonic motion.

3. What happens to a harmonic oscillator outside the classically allowed region?

When a harmonic oscillator is outside the classically allowed region, it is in an energy state that is not allowed by classical mechanics. This means that it cannot undergo harmonic motion and will instead exhibit non-harmonic or chaotic behavior.

4. How is the behavior of a harmonic oscillator different inside and outside the classically allowed region?

Inside the classically allowed region, a harmonic oscillator will exhibit regular and predictable harmonic motion. Outside this region, the oscillator will exhibit more complex and unpredictable behavior, such as non-harmonic or chaotic motion.

5. What are some real-world examples of harmonic oscillators outside the classically allowed region?

One example of a harmonic oscillator outside the classically allowed region is a pendulum with a very small amplitude. Another example is a molecule that is highly excited and in a state where it cannot undergo regular vibrational motion. In both cases, the oscillators do not have enough energy to reach the classically allowed region and exhibit non-harmonic or chaotic behavior.

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