A hyperbolicshape of the universe, despite measurements

In summary, the latest measurements of light from distant supernovas suggest that the universe is not curved in either a hyperbolic or spherical way. While there are different hyperbolic geometries, such as the projective model, it is difficult to determine if our universe is hyperbolic based on observations alone. The issue of using observations to differentiate between different cosmological models that are conformally equivalent is also present. However, the supernova project is not a good test for spacetime geometry and dark energy is seen as a more promising candidate for explaining the brightness discrepancy. Overall, it seems that the expansion of the universe is a more reasonable explanation than one based solely on geometry.
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Hymne
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Hi.
If I have got it all right the latest measurements of light from very distanced super novas tells us that the space of the universe is not curved, either hyperbolic or Spherical.
But I have recently been introduced to diffrent kind of hyperbolic geometries, like the projective model for example.
Couldnt our universe be a hyperbolic universe (if the hyperbolic geometry in this case is as the projective model says) without contradicting the measurements of the supernova light?
 
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There is always the issue of the difficulty of using observations to differentiate between different cosmological models that are conformally equivalent to each other.

Garth
 
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It's currently too close to flat to make a call, at least at large scales [~100 Mpc] based on the majority of current evidence. The supernova project is, however, not a good test for spacetime geometry. Dark energy is viewed as a much more promising candidate explanationg for the brightness discrepancy. This of course, presupposes the universe is expanding, but that appears a more reasonable explanation than one based strictly on geometry.
 
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Projective model?

Hymne said:
But I have recently been introduced to diffrent kind of hyperbolic geometries, like the projective model for example.

I suspect you misunderstood something, but it would be impossible to say unless you can give a citation (preferably to something like an arXiv eprint).
 

1. What is a hyperbolic shape of the universe?

A hyperbolic shape of the universe refers to the three-dimensional geometry of the universe, which can be described as having a saddle-like shape. This shape is characterized by negatively curved space, meaning that parallel lines will eventually diverge from each other.

2. How is the shape of the universe measured?

The shape of the universe is measured through various astronomical observations, such as the cosmic microwave background radiation and the distribution of galaxies. These measurements are then compared to different models of the universe to determine its overall shape.

3. What evidence supports a hyperbolic shape of the universe?

One of the main pieces of evidence for a hyperbolic shape of the universe is the observations of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which show slight temperature variations that are consistent with a negatively curved universe. Additionally, the observed distribution of galaxies also supports this shape.

4. How does a hyperbolic shape of the universe affect our understanding of the universe?

A hyperbolic shape of the universe has significant implications for our understanding of the universe. It suggests that the universe is infinite and that it will continue to expand forever. It also has implications for the overall structure and evolution of the universe.

5. Is a hyperbolic shape of the universe universally accepted by scientists?

No, there is still ongoing debate and research on the shape of the universe. While many scientists support the hyperbolic shape based on current evidence, there are also alternative theories and models that suggest a different shape, such as a flat or positively curved universe. Further research and observations are needed to fully understand the true shape of our universe.

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