Solving Constants of Motion for Particle in 3D - No Quotes

In summary, the conversation involves a particle moving in three dimensions under the action of a conservative force with a known potential energy function. The hamiltonian function for the system is derived using spherical coordinates. It is then shown that P_{\phi}, \frac{P^{2}_{r}}{2m} + \frac{P^{2}_{\phi}}{2mr^{2}sin^{2}\theta} + V(r) and P^{2}_{\theta} + \frac{P^{2}_{\phi}}{sin^{2}\theta} are constants of motion. The conversation also includes a request for suggestions on how to identify a constant of motion, with the hint of using Poisson bracket.
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[SOLVED] Constants Of Motion

A Particle of mass m moves in three dimensions under the action of a conservative force with potential energy V(r).Using the sperical coordinates r, [tex]\theta[/tex],[tex]\phi[/tex], obtain the hamiltonian function for the system.
Show that [tex]P_{\phi}[/tex] , [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{r}}{2m}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{\phi}}{2mr^{2}sin^{2}\theta}[/tex] + V(r) and [tex]P^{2}_{\theta}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{\phi}}{sin^{2}\theta}[/tex] are constants of motion.

I found the hamiltonian, H = [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{r}}{2m}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{\theta}}{2mr^{2}}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{P^{2}_{\phi}}{2mr^{2}sin^{2}\theta}[/tex] + V(r).


Since [tex]\phi[/tex] is cyclic we have [tex]P_{\phi}^{'}[/tex]=0 or [tex]P_{\phi}[/tex] is a constant of motion. I don't have much idea about the rest. Do u people have any suggestions? Thanks in advance..
 
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Hi, abeen,

Welcome to PF.

From the way you phrased your questions, it sounds like you are seeking advice for how to attack a homework problem. If so, there's a special forum at PF for that (look up above for the "sticky"). If not, we can help you right here.
 
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abeen said:
. I don't have much idea about the rest. Do u people have any suggestions? Thanks in advance..

Hint: Poisson bracket
 
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siddharth said:
Hint: Poisson bracket

Thanks.Can you please give me a brief account of the methods for identifying a constant of motion.
 
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abeen said:
Thanks.Can you please give me a brief account of the methods for identifying a constant of motion.

That was the hint. If F(p,q) is a constant of motion and H is the hamiltonian, what can you conclude about {H,F} ?
 

1. What is the concept of "solving constants of motion" for a particle in 3D?

The concept of "solving constants of motion" refers to finding the mathematical expressions that represent the physical properties that remain constant for a particle in 3D motion. These constants can include momentum, energy, and angular momentum.

2. How is the process of solving constants of motion for a particle in 3D different from solving for a particle in 2D?

The main difference in solving for a particle in 3D compared to 2D lies in the additional dimension. This adds complexity to the equations and requires the use of vector calculus. The resulting equations for the constants of motion will also involve 3D vectors rather than 2D vectors.

3. Why is it important to solve for the constants of motion for a particle in 3D?

Solving for the constants of motion allows us to accurately describe and predict the motion of a particle in 3D space. These constants provide valuable information about the particle's position, velocity, and acceleration, which can be used in various applications such as celestial mechanics, fluid dynamics, and engineering design.

4. What are some common techniques used to solve for the constants of motion for a particle in 3D?

Some common techniques used to solve for the constants of motion include using the Lagrangian or Hamiltonian formalism, applying the laws of conservation of energy and momentum, and using vector calculus to solve for the equations of motion.

5. Are there any limitations or assumptions when solving for the constants of motion for a particle in 3D?

One limitation is that the equations used to solve for the constants of motion assume that the particle is moving in a conservative force field, meaning that the work done by non-conservative forces (such as friction or air resistance) is negligible. Additionally, these equations assume that the particle is a point mass and neglect any internal degrees of freedom.

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